Sorry if this realy stupid.Why cant there be a seperation of church and state in outher countries?

Question

I realy dont wish any fighting.
veiws an opions are just fine.
im 60s babby an never went
to college.
It jus semms thats were all the fighting is coming from.
thanks

Answer 1

Most nations include the church as part of thier rulling government, like the US did when it formed, inlcluding prayer at the start of Congress, paid clergy in the military and schools all operated by the church.

The US does not have a seperation of Church and State, this is merley a lie the ACLU and others are teaching our children for the last generation, ( go read the real Constitution) it merley restricts a national religion ( means everyone was free to belong to thier own denomination) and that the government can not pass any laws restricting religion, so religion was protected from the government, not the government from the church.

Answer 2

That isn't stupid - and I've argued that since college. No nation that bases its government on a single religion will last. Name one peaceful nation whose government is inherently tied to a religious identity instead of secular, multi-faith government?

It's hard to do. I'm sure there are a few, but here's some with major issues where religion is an inherent part of government.

Israel - not so hot right now.
Pakistan - you decide how they're doing.
India (sometimes - I think they have a secularist in power right now) - lots of strife.
Hell, even Tibet's religious ties (Buddhists abhor violence) allowed them to get run over by China).

It doesn't work. A nation's job when it comes to religion is allowing those of faith, those without faith, and those of any faith the right to worship at home, at church, and in any space that is not government controlled (schools, courthouses, government buildings). Let them write, vote, shout, protest, and scream equally - but don't let them take up arms to defend their beliefs. That's the recipe for disaster.

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And Fr Chuck - you're misinformed. If you were forced to worship the way Jefferson or Franklin or Adams did - I don't think you'd like it much (each of them were - as can best be explained by today's standards - Unitarian). Jefferson himself wrote the clause that DID separate church and state in the Virginia constitution. Adams signed a treaty (law once passed by the Senate) stating that "America is in no way a Christian nation." All three thought Jesus to be a great teacher and philosopher - all three doubted his divinity. It is only since Lincoln - and then Reagan - that we claimed our Founding Fathers to be devout Christians. In the 1800s they were frequently decried as atheists. You have merely fallen for a long line of mythology about the great (but flawed) men who founded this nation. In fact, the only state constitution of the first colonies to have prescribe a state religion was Massachusetts (those Puritans, you know) - now the most hated state by the right. Irony, huh?

Answer 3

The so-called separation of church and state was out of the constitution of the former Soviet Union. See how that worked for them.

Religion should not be kept out of politics. Neither should it control it. People are religious, people belong in politics. If you try to force it out of politics, you disenfranchise a majority of the people. If only religious people are allowed to run a country, others are disenfranchised. You lose either way.

Fortunately, we have neither extreme. Yet. Beware the ACLU.

Answer 4

There is in many countries. Turkey and France are good examples, while they're both full of many religious people, keep the running of their goverments secular.

I find that religion is never actually a cause for war, but often an excuse. If you dig deeper, you'll usually find even more sinister reasons for the fighting.

Answer 5

Too easy huh? Religion doesn't belong in politics, it's that simple, but when religion controls every aspect of your lives it makes it hard to make a separation between the 2.

Answer 6

Other countries make their own policies. We chose to separate church and state. That doesn't mean all other countries have to do the same. And they don't. Especially Italy and the mideast where religion seems to rule everything.

Answer 7

There is no such thing as a separation of church and state and it's not in the US Constitution.

Answer 8

There can be. It's up to them to choose that format or not.