If feminists want equality, then aren't they as much feminist as masculanist?

Question

And besides, why do they want to be like men if they dislike what men are doing so much?

Well, if all you guys feel is animosity towards me, then how can I select a best answer?

Answer 1

I am not sure women want to be *like* men as they would like to be respected for who and what they are.

I am a woman who loves to be a woman, but wants to be respected as a person with a mind rather than an object with a body. I can't answer for all women on this though, but I'm pretty sure I'd get at least an 85% vote that way.

I may be weird, but I think if a woman can fit a job description, she should get the job, but if she can't fulfill the requirements, no one should change the requirements just so she can. It's just plain ridiculous to lower standards just to get a quota. For example, if a woman can't fulfill the strength requirements for firefighting, she shouldn't get to be a firefighter. PERIOD. No questions asked. However, if she can do it, she should get the job and be given equal pay.

I can't agree with feminists who say that women are superior to men, because that is not the reality I see. I see that men and women are different, skilled in different areas of life, but that they are both needed for the world to operate (reproduction aside) smoothly. If a man is a skilled child-care provider, he should be able to do that without shame or criticism, if a woman is a talented mechanic, she should be treated with the respect any other mechanic would get.

Overall, I think women just want to be recognized as worth something rather than be like men.

Answer 2

To the original question: yes, sort of. The semantic choice is there because A) All of the major issues fought for by feminists are those in which females are on the losing end and B) It MAY imply that the movement wants access to what would now be male privilidge. When everyone has access to it, it would no longer be privilidge. This would be as opposed to wanting men to give up their privilidge and no one has it. But that might be reading too far into it.

There were many waves of feminism, and in some, the women involved did indeed want to be like men. Those days are pretty much over; most women would prefer to be appreciated equally for the contributions they can make as women. I would also point out the fallacious logic of saying that if someone wants access to the same rights as another group, they "want to be like" them, and that further, even if they did, that they would include in that the same flaws that group had. I can envy traits of a role model without wanting to also take on their flaws.

Answer 3

Yes feminist are just as much masculanist, but men aren't the one's being oppressed or belittled, so feminist are fighting for female's rights-----hence the name feminist. Feminist don't dislike men in general, they dislike some of the ideals about women that men have. Feminists want to be like men in the sense that they would be treated equally.

Answer 4

More men die from diseases than women, yet over three times as much money is spent on "women's health."

The Civil Courts are biased against men who just want a chance to see their kids.

50% of all domestic abuse is the man actually doing the hitting. Men are trained to never hit girls, so they take it. Yet, when the police show up for a domestic abuse call, it is invariably the man that they arrest.


Where is the equality?

And don't give me that wage gap crap, that data was taken out of context.



You can't achieve nondiscrimination by discrminiating back.

Answer 5

Personally, I'm not really concerned with "Men's Rights". They have all the "rights" in the world. However, I wouldn't go around trying to oppress men, they way they did to us in the past. Many countries still treat their women horribly, and here you are whining. No matter what country you live in, you'll never have to worry about wearing a Burka, or getting your clitoris sliced off. You'll never be ganged raped as "revenge", then have your family try to kill you for "having sex outside of marriage". The Bible doesn't consider you "unclean", or blame you for original sin. These are the unforgivable things that men have done.

Answer 6

Female feminists don't want to be like men. They want to have the same opportunities (education, career, sports, etc.) that men have. And vice versa. They want men to have the same opportunities that women have.

For example, when I was a little girl, I joined the girl scouts. But all they did was glue dry macaroni to paper plates and other stupid passive activities. I wanted to go camping and learn to read a compass and navigate a boat on Lake Michigan and do the things that the boy scouts did. So, my mom and the other neighborhood moms arranged for me and other neighborhood girls to be in the boy scout troop. We didn't want to be boys. We wanted to camp and learn to read a compass, etc.

This translates into careers and other grown-up activities as well. We ladies want to do the activities, not be men.

Hopefully, this makes sense to you.

Answer 7

There in lies your problem...labeling behaviors and feelings as masculine or feminine. No act is in and of itself masculine or feminine. Some acts can be accomplished only by a male or only by a female; such as producing sperm or menstruating. Maybe these could be labelled, but it is not true to label other behaviors, feelings, and desires one way or the other. The healthy approach is to not label. There are always those that cannot be labeled and they make all the difference!

Answer 8

We don't wish to be like men. We wish to have the equal opportunity to do what men did, only better. Certainly there is room for improvement, right? *smile*

Answer 9

come on. Peter Kreeft was just joking

Answer 10

equality is a lie, women are better.