Fascism=Communism?

Question

Fascist and Commies said they are different with different points of view but in the end both end up the same.

Answer 1

They are philosophical opposites but they are both oppressive freedom killing forms of government.

Answer 2

People dont actually seem to understand what communism means. Communism is where everyone is equal so its nothing like fascism. However, the problem with communism is that in order to all be equal all the power is given to the state, and when that happens it becomes totalatarian. Communism is an ideal but doesnt actually work.

Answer 3

They are actually completely opposite sides of the political spectrum.

In Communism, all businesses are owned by the government.
In Fascism, goverment is owned by the businesses.

But your basic idea is correct. In either system, the people are oppressed.

Answer 4

Socialisim is the tie in

Answer 5

This country is bordering three ideologies...........fascism, imperialism and plutocracy!

Answer 6

same with democracy (see IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, PALISTINE)

Answer 7

what counts is the concentration of wealth/power or not

on the one side, democracy, freedom, equality, justice, friendliness, equal pay for equal work, peace, order, happiness, low crime, high safety, social trust, community, love, happiness, low defense cost, low corruption, high real income growth, high capital formation, comfort, mental health - best example: scandinavian states

on the other side, inequality [of wealth/power], tyranny, fascism, communism [historical and theoretical], violence, danger, state sadism, cruelty, oppression, disturbance, terrorism [state and private], paranoia of leaders, vicious govt, corruption [ie, free thieving for the few], constant disturbance, high defense cost, low real income growth, low investment capital formation and savings, high mental illness, alcoholism, drugabuse, homelessness, poverty, slavery, wageslavery, high crime, war [endless, escalating]

did you know fascism took most of its doctrine from communism?

theoretical communism was naive to insanity to think that taking everything off everyone and giving it to the state [which in practice meant, to the leader of the party] would make justice and equality - yeah, like emptying is filling, taking is giving

historical communism was plain old tyranny despotism fascism banditry theft with a nice name to fool the people - nazism was called nationalist socialist workers' party, but the nazis killed everyone standing up for the worker [over 100,000 germans - after 9/11 - i mean, after the reichstag burning] - hitler was a tool of the industrialist fatcats who wanted cheap, well-oppressed labour

the founding fathers of the american dream knew very well that the american dream of freedom would last only as long as wealth/power concentration was prevented - first thing they did after getting free was limit fortunes

commonsense tells you that concentration of wealth/power is tyrannous, corrupt, thieving, evil

historical capitalism has been tyrannical, abusive, oppressive, vicious [rockefeller having striking miners families burned alive in their holes-in-the-ground strike-homes]

americans have done nothing - not even anything ineffective - against the rise of wealth/power concentration - so now they have a tyranny, fascist, communist, despotic, cruel, murderous, undemocratic, unfree, oppressive, highcrime, high defense cost, homelessness, unsafe, unfriendly, constantly disturbed, dangerous, unhappy, terrorist state - an empire having plundered, plundering and being plundered [eg, by the mafia, and the mexican and south american druglords]

the globe is in super hyper extreme wealth/power concentration, with all that that implies

the democrats and republicans are the same: fatcats raking it in as fast as they can with the big shiny diamondstudded rake donated to them by the people

so why do humans always choose the unhappy option?

i guess poor people coming to america thought: wow! what a great country! look at him! from poverty to riches in a few decades! wow! this is for me! no more slaving for some tyrant back in old europe, persecuted, beaten at whim, ground down with poverty and work - im free! free to get rich! great!

very natural, understandable, but

naive to insanity

the pool of wealth is filled with the fruit of labour - finite number of workers, finite number of hours, finite productivity per hour - finite pool

if people are free to take out more than they put in, others have to take out less than they put in - and money is power, so power to take out money/wealth/workproducts is proportional to wealth/power - the rich get richer, the poor get poorer - the more there are with bigger rakes, the faster the pool gets emptied - the raking ['extractive'] economy is 20 times the making/working economy - the two nations: the ones who work a lot and the ones who rake a lot

99% of people are paid less than the world average pay - 75% of americans are paid less than the world average pay

people dont understand [and economists are not forward in teaching] that there is overpay, ie, legal theft as well as illegal theft - when people begin to notice the injustice, the inequality - working as hard and getting far less - they are righteously angry - the overpaid, unconscious that they are thieves, act to protect what they think is theirs - hence violence - escalating, because both sides think they are right - the fault is in not grasping the reality of legal theft

if people have seen ways of getting easy money [other-earned money], they have been more inclined to think: good, i'll go for it, and to deceive themselves that it is selfearned money: 'i worked hard for my money' - yes, but you were paid at 2 or 10 or 100 or 1000 or 1000000 times the fairpay for a unit of work

with bigger rakes, you can bop someone else on the head and take their rake [hostile takeovers] - money makes money, the second million is easier to rake than the first thousand to make, after the first million, money multiplies like rabbits - the big money gets the investment plums and pays smaller percentage brokerage costs

the big money can get the better information, the further-inside information, so the overall effect of the stockmarkets is to move money from the little money to the big money - 'the poor man pays for all' - the only wealth is being made by work, but the pool is being very freely raked by bigmoney

1% get 90% of world income - US$70 trillion a year - while doing less than 1% of the work - a giant theft - easily visible to the 90% on 10th to 1000th of the average hourly pay - and rightly resented

and the violence engendered escalates to atomic war - we cant keep growing injustice/violence without sometime definitely reaching the ceiling - ww3 and nuclear winter - if a helium balloon is let go and rises towards the ceiling, it will arrive at the ceiling unless actively prevented

justice [nontheft] is equal pay for equal work - what do we have, nontheft or theft? - we have super hyper extreme theft - 1% getting 90% of world income - pay from $1 to $1 billion a fortnight's work - from 1000th of average to a million times average

everyone wants to be rich - quite naturally, because money is good, it buys good things - more money buys more good things - so we have a freeforall at the pool of wealth/workfruits - everyone is happy, everyone is free - look at the huge pool, filled with goodies - and we can all rake as much as we like

but of course soon a few have most, and most have little - although everyone works - although the work is spread - so then the losers at the pool, finding the pool almost empty, and money hard to rake, start to resent - quite rightly: everyone has worked, far more equally than the distribution of rewards - the average person works 50 hours a week or more [homemakers/housewives 70-90 hours a week], so no one has worked more than double the average, but rewards are up to a million times average, and 1% are only 10% away from having the whole pool of wealth made by work

the govt makes money by inflation, making the people poorer by the inflation, making them need to borrow, and the govt lends them the money the govt extracted by inflation - and stops bothering the lenders when the lenders have paid three or four times the loan

it takes only 8000 people being paid up to a million times average to take all the world income [products of work]

super-extreme injustice/ theft/ inequality/ tyranny/undemocracy/ corruption/ terrorism/ violence/ disturbance/ unhappiness/ escalation/ sadism/ paranoia/ danger/ defensecosts/ lowcapitalformation/ lowincomegrowth/ extinction

someone once said: i dont know what brings happiness, both wealth and poverty dont bring happiness - well, isnt it about time, after 1000s of years of wealth/poverty, to try justice, equality, nontheft, nonraking?

everyone start aiming to get out as much as you put in, not more, lest you get less, and an endless escalating fight to extinction, or get more, and the endless escalating fight to extinction, nuclear winter, everyone [frozen] hamburger meat a la slavinsky slavar and his turkish mate?

the pool of social wealth was formed to mix goods after we started specialising in work - not to get us all into a raging fight and get us all dead

bill gates, the most overpaid person who isnt hiding it, gets out US$500,000 of wealth/work for every hour he puts in - up to US$10 million in a 'good' [bad] hour - puts one hour of himself into the pool and takes out a life average of 50,000 to a life peak of 1,000,000 hours worth of wealth/products - leaving so little for the least lucky rakers that 50 million of them a year die for lack of food, when they earn US$75,000 a year - contribute to the pool US$15 of goods/services every hour of work

we have convinced ourselves this is sane - but only by taking leave of our senses - we are extremely miserable, and we are going to become extinct, because of addiction to raking - freeforall at the pool is cool

we are on the brink of plenty and peace - but we are going to have to fight an addiction so powerful that the church [cant serve god [=sanity, happiness]and mammon [=overpay], overpay the root of all troubles, rich going to heaven when a camel fits through a needle's eye, no love in a person if they have means and see need and dont give] the church has totally succumbed to it

plenty for all, and peace

or continue as we are, misery racing to extinction

fascism= communism= free-rake-capitalism= evil, pain, suffering

democracy= freedom= peace= plenty= no-free-rake-capitalism= the true-original- wise-american-dream


since 99% benefit financially [another US$70,000 per family a year],

since everyone benefits enormously [nonextinction, peace]

since everyone in the world can be informed by wordofmouth alone in just 31 times the time to tell two people well enough so that they understand the essential importance of telling two people

since the only change that is needed is limitation of fortunes to the just maximum lifetime earnable [US$2 million, 2006AD, doubling every 12 years or so] and distribution of the overfortunes to every person on earth [US$70,000 a year extra per family, everyone to open accounts - electronic, full, and direct equal payment - govts to pay setup and transfer costs - govts benefit from money inflow, lower social costs - payment to all, rich and poor, saves enormous bureaucratic cost of deciding who gets paid, and the overpaid are getting whittled anyway]

since the only effort is to tell two people well enough etc

since, although there are 4 billion to reach, there are 4 billion to reach them

since wordofmouth is safe for people, and difficult for the tyrants to sabotage by terrorism or disinformation [eg, tame, bought professors]

we can be in the golden age in a few years