World Trade Forensics... Do you think that the WTC was bombed before or after the planes hit?

Question

The floors of the floors of the WTC, like most high rises built in the laqst half of the 20 th century, were steel pans filled with concrete and covered with flooring, carpet and padding, lineolium, tile, etc. These would colapse into a pile of rubble, not pulverize into a cloud of tiny dust particles in a convential colapse. To turn concrete to dust, especially if it is well covered, takes " explosive " energy. The dust clouds emanating from ground zero on 9/11/01 had all of the ear marks of a pyroclastic flow cloud as seen at an errupting volcano. What force accounts for the pulverization of the solid matter in the Twin Towers at the time of their collaqpse into their footprints at the speed of freefall in a near perfectly symetrically fashion?

Fire drills the week before the collapse of the WTCs --Totally suspicious!!

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3249714675910247150&q=9%2F11

Answer 1

Judging from eye witness accounts, I would have to conclude that explosives were used after the planes hit. It might help to examine the evidence available at this time.

This is a good time to be examining the collapse of the towers, because we are finally starting to get some cold hard evidence, that show us, how those buildings came down. Here is some of the most recent irrefutable evidence available today.

1. We now have eye witness accounts, from people inside of the building, telling of explosions taking place, on different floors, including lower floors, just before the buildings went down. Many of the witnesses, were silenced when the buildings collapsed, but their accounts live on, in just released radio recordings. (I'll try to find them on the Internet for you. I heard the firemens radio conversations, not to long ago.) They went something like this, "What's going on! I'm on the 22nd floor, and I just heard an explosion." "I'm on 72, and I heard one too."

2. Photographs of the buildings, just before it went down, show molten metal flowing out, from the building. Structural steel requires temperatures, well beyond burning jet fuel, to melt. Further, the color of the glowing molten metal, is also representative of high temperatures, beyond that of burning jet fuel. See source below, for detailed information, regarding structural steel melting points etc.

3. A chemical analysis of the molten metal, found at the site, shows traces of a chemical called, "Thermate". Thermate charges are used by professional demolition crews, to cut through steel beams, to demolish buildings. Incidentally, the samples were recovered by a member, of the clean up crew, who kept it as a souvenir memento. Most of the scrap metal, including the pools of molten steel, were recovered by a demolition crew, and discarded. There are though photos, at ground zero, showing beams that have been shearded at a right angle: Slag is shown dripping from the process. Click on photo, in website below; for a close up examination.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2842384983834100001

4. Thermate traces have also been found, inside the bodies, of those exposed to the gases from the molten debris; people such as firemen and clean up crew members.

I found the following video clip, while conducting research. It has a bias slant, but is also very intriguing. Once you see it, you'll never be able to see the 9-ll tragedy the same again: I know I won't.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1519312457137943386&q=loose+change

Answer 2

After, thermite only needs a small fuse to ignite it. One thing that bothers me is that it fell straight down somehow. It was built with a backbone, around a core, the middle is the strongest part, unlike alot of buildings that get their strength from the outside in.
I am surprised at how many people completely dismiss an iota of a chance that this is possible. Putting all the physical evidence aside, the way some in the government acted before and after should be sufficient to at least say "maybe". I do not question the innocence of those who lost their lives, the bravery of the firefighters and police on that day. I simply question how the intellegence community can keep tabs on somebody for the most minimal of activities, and they've done that for years. But somehow, a dozen guys with a limited education that had all kinds of bad ties got through the expansive intellegence nets, then somehow overtook a plane that they never could fly in a simulator. The other coincidence that haunts me is the fact that the pilot of the plane that hit the Pentagon was also just a year prior an employee in the Pentagon and took part in a drill that simulated a plane hitting the Pentagon.
I certainly hope that mine and others suspicion of the events of that day are ill founded and we are wrong. The implications behind this would be too big to have no one looking for it. Staged attacks by the enemy aren't new; this cat in the 30's did it, then gained support by the masses and invaded Poland!

Answer 3

"To turn concrete to dust, especially if it is well covered, takes " explosive " energy."

Is that the type of explosive energy caused by say a aeroplane filled with fuel crashing into a building? because that sounds pretty explosive to me, as a matter of fact, i can think of a couple of examples of this having happened. New York in 2001.

Do you know how much steel and concrete survived the attack? lots, that what they were clearing from ground zero for months. Like the dust could not have been anything else, like all the internal fixtures of these buildings, like mabye dust that was accumalted outside the building.

Gotta admire the peole who sent off bombs in the 80th floor of a building, on the same floors that a plane just crashed, agmonst all the fire, smoke, etc etc. (the buildings collapsed from these points)

I really don't know whats worse, the fact you will even suggest this was a conspiracy, or the total lack of knowledge about the attack?

Oh, and i am not even american.

"...collaqpse into their footprints at the speed of freefall in a near perfectly symetrically fashion?"

They were the same building, side by side, why wouldn't they collapse in the same way, when the attacked in the same spot?

Answer 4

I am here a little bit confused, please help:
All you people with conspiracy theories: were you actually standing there in Manhattan watching the twin towers collapse?
Any of you took part in the aftermath work? Analyzing the rubble?
Any of you took part in planning and execution of the building of the towers in the 70s?
I'm trying to understand what you are basing your speculations and theories on. If a real scientist: physicist, material engineer would have said something like what you guys are saying, there would have been so called "peer review": other scientists in the field would have analyze evidence, would have performed experiments. But making statements: Because of the rugs and the flooring the towers didn't collapse from the heat that was generated by the burning fuel?
How many jet plains previously hit buildings that we can compare?

Answer 5

It was an inside job. It was demolition imploded and anyone who believes other wise is a naive neo con. Waaaay to much evidence is coming out to prove that it could not have been the planes. What about building seven? It was never hit by a plane. There has never been a building made in than manner of construction that has fell due to fire. EVER. Yet on Sept. 11th we had THREE of them fall in the same way? Yes the herd needs to lift their heads and start looking around a bit. Much Peace

Answer 6

Shhhhhhhhh, you can't tell people that, they can't handle the truth. Besides people don't understand that hitting the top floors of the towers with planes with that much jet fuel would have blown out not down. If i were a terrorist why not go a few blocks and hit Wall Sreet, I bet they were at work at 9:00 in the morning.

Answer 7

To answer Au$ there WAS another incident of a jetliner crashing into a highrise that we can compare with, IN NEW YORK!!! a jumbo jet crashed into the Empire state buildind in the 30's during a thick fog and it still stands to this day. and even if the buildings did collapse from the point of impact they wouldn't have collapsed uniformally. and plese try to explane the outward blasts of debry VISIBLE ON ANY VIDEO FOOTAGE!!!! or the collapse of bulding 7 or the fact that Silverstein said publicly on PBS that they "pulled the building"

how about the lack of substantial wreckage in pennsylvania or the pentagon? Come on people, get your heads out of bush's lap and think for yourselves!!!! They needed pretext to go to war and get richer! You only get 2 terms, so make them count right?

Look, people in those types of positions just don't think or act like we do. they look at nations and populations in terms of numbers and values. Thats why western lives are worth more than third world or developing country lives. Not to us, but to those in power. They can afford to kill poor foriegners easyer than killing Americans, but don't put it past them. they are the ones who created the idea of human lives being collateral dammage and they are dead serious about it.

There WERE scientests that went public from many well respected institutions but they were silenced by their peers by use of pressure on them. The media silenced their voices and their peers shunned them. Instead of slobbing the nob of your government and media, why don't you do some simple research.

And i don't mean to go and slob the nobs of conspiracy theorists either, just do some honest research.

The real conspiracy theory that is crazy is the theory that 19 guys with boxcutters changed the world and completely demolished 3 sky scrapers and had the power to order NORAD to ignore them and continue on their merry way.

Where were the fighter jets surrounding any off course plane? where was our world class military?

Conducting war games that MIRRORED WHAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING ON IN REAL LIFE AT THE EXACT SAME TIME!!!!!!!!!

Wake up and stop being DICK (CHENEY) SUCKING MORONS!!!!!!

Answer 8

It was the planes! Didn't you watch the news? They actually found one of the terrorists drivers license in the ruble of the towers! Guess that plastic coating is much stronger than the concrete? And fire proof!

Answer 9

And the CIA killed JFK and don't forget the green men in area 51 and the sound stage where the lunar landings took place.

When someone gets their teeth in good conspiracy there is no pacifying them with fact or fiction. Can you imagine the number of people that would have had to be involved in what you suggest. And that in a country that can't keep news of telephone traces from the press. Please, Please, Please give the conspiracy thing a rest.

Answer 10

"bombed before or after the planes hit?"-LOL That's a bit of a loaded question.