conservatives who stress personal responsibility, is it irresponisible to support a failed president and war?

Question

the only reason conservatives support bush is partisanship. there are no accomplishments to support.

Answer 1

Unfortunately, they don't see it that way. Most of the neo-cons (true conservatives see these jokers for what they are and don't support the Bush regime-read "Conservatives without a Conscience" by John W. Dean-a "Goldwater conservative") get their "news" and opinions from Fox news and hate mongers-propagandists like Limbaugh, O-Reilly and Hannity. According to them, Bush is a success and so is the war. They live in upside down bizarro world but have a lot of people who actually take them seriously. They say that the war and Dubya are actually doing a good job but the "liberal media" twists it around and won't report the "good stuff". Unfortunately most of these people don't bother to research or actually find out what the facts are.
You are going to get a lot of hateful neo-con posts regarding this and I have to say to all of you who are just all about throwing hateful words around is that if you can't even talk to another American and have a civil debate, you've already lost.

Answer 2

The President has an extensive record of many achievements, of tax cuts, the war on terror, improved security within our own country, reviving the economy after the neglect and abuse of 8 years of Clintonism, democracies established in countries that had only known brutal dictatorships for many years, many, many things that he has achieved in five and a half years - I could post the web sites and the sources that outline many of his accomplishments - but you wouldn't consult them and wouldn't understand their importance any way.

I don't agree with 100% of what this President does, but I respect and admire his steadfast resolve to make this country and this world a better and safer place to live. He is a man of action - not a negative naysayer who sits around criticizing everything that is happening. He has a plan and is following through with it - unlike the liberals who just sit back and snipe at everything and offer no viable alternatives because they have no plans, no ideals, no hope, no morals, no foundation of beliefs and nothing to offer.

Answer 3

IT IS EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY TO SUPPORT THE GOVERNMENT. At the same time we have the right to not agree with it, but remember we as a nation elect our officials. I stated in another answer "what is the point of elections if we do not support the people we elect." We have the right to disagree and the duty to support. That is the freedom we have. Some people think he has done a bad job, some think he has done well. I don't agree with everything he has done but I still support him and this country. If we don't, we are going to be worse of than we are now.

Answer 4

One of the biggest hypocracies of the Right. "I favor personal responsibility". But every time Bush screws up they blame someone else.
"It's the New York Times' fault."
"It's the liberals' fault!"
"It's the soldiers' fault."

I just saw the repeat of the "The Simpsons" where Bart becomes a celebrity on Krusty's show for saying "I didn't do it!" Sound like any presidents you know?

Answer 5

I'd say if you listened to conservative media outlets, and traditional conservative leaders (Reaganites, Goldwaterites, etc.), you'd hear a HUGE sucking sound of supporters leaving Bush's front lines and looking to re-establish the Republican Party as a group looking to return America to its traditional roots, rather than blindly supporting a more controlling and arrogant administration who by its own admission, has overplayed its hand.

I think partisanship in the GOP still exists, because some leaders on the other side of the aisle want wide open borders, soft enforcement of minor crimes, undue liberties granted to known terrorists; they support policies that undermine the founding values of the nation, including traditional family construct, unity and security, the English language, the volunteering and personally accountable nature of Americans, who have flocked to finger-pointing and handout opportunities in numbers never before seen; they are quick to blame, slow to initiate and resolve....and, even within the GOP, there are elements that move to left of center, simply to poach votes, without any concern to principles or conviction.

There is a GOP out there that is comprised mostly of Congressmen (not Senators), who resonate the will and the whim of the public, the general public, the MAJORITY of Americans, who still believe in the idea of a home, a family, secure schools and parks and neighborhoods, opportunity, hard work, charity and patriotism. The OLD America. Some Democrats believe in this too (maybe Lieberman? who knows?). But not enough, not enough from either party.

The bottom line is the Bush doctrine is dead. His own party admits as much. There are two elections in the next two years that will make/break both parties. Both have a stake in returning productivity and security to a nation that's REALLY lost its way. There IS a nostalgia within Americans for older days, when ball games and movies and TV shows and local gossip were the important topics of the day, not death tolls and straw polls and natural disasters and police car chases and job erosion. There is a generation of Americans out there who want what their parents and grandparents may have had, but see a government and a media community unable to rally its people around positive, patriotic, progressive, achievable goals and aspirations. Instead of pushing on to Mars and beyond, instead of elevating the standard of living for all Americans, instead of leading the world on important issues like sustainable growth/energy, self-reliancy in the 3rd world, a positive and engaging proliferation of democracy and capitalism (a la the Marshall Plan and the fall of the USSR), we're faced with death, every freaking day, with kidnappings and child abuse and murder and political wrangling and shouting matches and laser-focus on issues that DON'T impact the average American and more importantly DON'T improve our prospects for the future one iota, but provide pathetic and disturbing forms of entertainment that pit Americans against themselves and against the world.

Both parties are to blame for a complete ignorance of the importance and need in this nation, for pride, initiative, positive movement and the re-establishment of a national self-esteem.

As for a failed war, the alternative would be to exit the Middle East and let local players sort out their own disagreements. The result would likely be $10 gas, nuclear combat, cultural clashes of a cataclysmic nature and the complete destruction of what we traditionally consider America. Simply unplugging from the Middle East or from issues in N. Korea, Russia, China, etc. is a morally and politically empty and irresponsible platform. No educated or reasonable person would suggest that simply leaving the Middle East would resolve the problems there. As a world leader, our neck is out there, and you get the adulation when things go well, and all the blame when things don't. That's the role of a leader, and it isn't irresponsible to continue to try to lead, to try to finish what one has started, to try and accomplish the distinct goals (defeating extreme Islamic elements bent on American destruction) that are known and achievable. The METHOD of achieving these goals is EXTREMELY suspect, but that is where responsible players on both sides should come up with executable policies, with consensus and buy-in. Simply pointing fingers is very UN-American, and shows us as a weak and corrupt people who are content with complaining and protesting without substantive ideas and efforts (a la Europe).

Lastly, there is a value and a need in America for conservative (definitional, not political) values and policies. Departing or abandoning these values wholesale is NOT in the interest of ANY American, regardless of political leaning. Let's NOT throw the baby out with the bath water.

Answer 6

??? Limbaugh is blaming Obama for the warfare in Afghanistan? Please be slightly greater particular because of the fact I doubt he's blaming Obama for commencing warfare on account that Obama did not start up the warfare. Limbaugh could be a dumb-*** for claiming that he did. What precisely is Limbaugh blaming Obama for? properly, it quite is not secret that conservatives dislike Obama yet i don't comprehend regardless of if one might desire to credit Limbaugh's "blaming" or "dislike" of Obama strictly on his political association/perspectives on my own. nevertheless it quite is not outdoors the area of threat. Rush praised Bush for ending the warfare in Afghanistan? I wasn't conscious that Bush ended the warfare in Afghanistan with a rapid victory. Jesus, this discord between liberals and conservatives has gotten extremely ridiculous.

Answer 7

Bush is a LIBERAL ! Please let us be fair tho because you see Bush is thought of as a CONSERVATIVE ... Now with respect, let us count the ways. Keep in mind that it is our duty as citizens to support and respect our officials from school crossing guard to the president. Please, now, with respect, and please note I did not say with all due respect, let us find some of the CONSERVATIVE things this president has accomplished.

Answer 8

Dr.Cheesehead:"The president has many achievements...war on terror..."
"Liberals...no morals"

Unlike Bush with those Abu Ghraib photos on his watch?

LAUGHING OUT FREAKIN LOUD!

THAT QUEEN IS A RIOT!!!

Answer 9

Too late. L. B. Johnson is dead. Supporting him or not makes no difference now.

Answer 10

Only an idiot would ask a idiotic question such as this.