How do Liberals respond when Conservatives argue "Freedom is not Free!" ???

Question

Conservatives believe our freedom needs to be protected from Terrorists. This is proactive approach which requires sacrifice. History shows that freedom cannot be achieved by appeasement or negotiation with evil.

Answer 1

AMEN Superman!

Just look at the mess Israel is in right now! This may well have not happened if they had not appeased the Hezbollah in the past with prisoner exchanges for hostages. They should never have negotiated with these terrorist.

Answer 2

So your willing to give up your freedom? tell that to all the veterans of every war we have had..Paul Krugman, in a May 27 article in the New York Times titled "Stating the Obvious", wrote that "the gimmicks used to make an $800-billion-plus tax cut carry an official price tag of only $320 billion are a joke, yet the cost without the gimmicks is so large that the nation can't possibly afford it while keeping its other promises; ... The people now running America aren't conservatives: they're radicals who want to do away with the social and economic system we have, and the fiscal crisis they are concocting may give them the excuse they need."

Two days later, Peronet Despeignes, reporting in the Financial Times of London, wrote that "The Bush administration has shelved a report commissioned by the Treasury that shows the US currently faces a future of chronic federal budget deficits totaling at least $44,200 trillion [the deficit is currently at about six trillion dollars] in current US dollars."

That's trillion with a "T". To put that terrifying figure in perspective, Despeignes reported it to be the rough equivalent of four years of US economic output or 94% of all US household assets, and that "closing the gap would require the equivalent of an immediate and permanent 66 per cent across-the-board income tax increase."

The next day, on his Public Television show "Now", Bill Moyers was blunt. The Bush Administration, he said, kept news of this impending debt from the public "lest it throw the fear of God into Congress and the financial markets and cost them the tax cut for the rich." Moyers went on to say that "we are watching the country's future slip deeper and deeper into a black hole of red ink."

And two days after that, Noam Chomsky, in an interview on C-Span televised on June 1, stated flatly that the tax cut was calculated to lead to a "fiscal train wreck".

"At some point", Krugman wrote, "Bond markets will balk - they won't lend money to a government, even that of the United States, if that government's debt is growing faster than its revenues, and there is no plausible story about how the budget will eventually come under control."

But that's the very point of massive tax cuts: breaking the bank so as to kill social programs. If you dont like your freedom.. .theres the door

Answer 3

How can the Terrorist effect our Freedom. Can they take over our government. Do they have a big enough Army to invade the USA and take Washington D.C., Well my answer is yes they can take our Freedom as a matter of fact they already have. When our government starts writing up documents like the Patriot Act our Freedoms are being striped away. When our government is spying on us without a warrant that takes away our Freedom. The Terrorist can not physically take our freedoms away by force but they can make our own government implement new laws and legislation that erodes our constitution so the real question is when are we going to fight the government to protect our freedom? When its too late most likely. I hope I am wrong

Answer 4

I can agree with that, but when are the Conservatives going to stop taking away freedoms in the name of fighting Terrorism? Too, when are the conservative going to realize that there are no Terrorist, but that they are agents of government we support engaging in activities to destabilize the US so that the governments cannot be held responsible for the actions of their agents? It would really help if the conservatives in power actually went after the sources of the Terror agents and not the agents. We are not doing that. Iraq was pure and simple adventurism, and our being there, has done little to minimize the threat save for giving the agents a target (our people) closer to home. Would it not do better that we get off the foreign oil teat and find a viable alternative? You are right about not appeasing evil, so why do we seem to continually prop it up?

Answer 5

Freedom is NOT free.While you're busy voting to ram your religion down my throat with MY HARD EARNED tax dollars,you're ignoring the fact that things are going horribly wrong in Iraq.A new plan is needed,but Bush has no plan except to ignore that it is sinking into civil war.Iraq is losing about 100 civilians a day.Would you call that "liberation"? I would not.

Conseravtives do NOT believe our freedom needes to be protected from terrorists.If conservatives had their way their would be no domestic freedom at all without being a card-carrying christian.They might even go back to burning heretics at the stake for that matter.

Why dont you stop bemoaning you fellow "liberal" Americans who want rights just as you do and admit this Admisnistration's plan in Iraq needs a serious overhaul

Answer 6

It's all about the Constitution. In the Preamble to the Constitution, the government was founded to: "establish Justice, to ensure domestic Tranquility, to provide for the common Defense, to promote the general Welfare, and secure the blessings of Liberty"

Conservatives think the most important are "to ensure domestic Tranquility" (meaning to promote conformity with 'traditional' ways) and to "provide for the Common Defense". They prefer group rights (conformity with 'traditional' values) and a large government to ensure domestic tranquility (by enforcing those conservative majority beliefs).

Liberals think it's more important to "promote the general Welfare, and ensure the blessings of Liberty". Liberals don't think that freedom should be free. Liberals think that freedoms should be preserved and cherished, and fighting against any enemies who would take those freedoms away -- foreign or domestic.

While history does show that negotiation with evil rarely works in the long run, history is even more clear that the loss of fundamental liberties and restrictions on civil rights is what creates a tyranny, and what leads a country to become evil.


In honor of Pastor Martin Niemöller:

First they came for the 6th Amendment, but I hadn't been accused of a crime, so I didn't object to denial of counsel.

Then they came for the 4th Amendment, but I wasn't talking to anyone overseas, so they wouldn't be monitoring me.

Then they came for the 1st Amendment, but I never associated with criminals, so I didn't think about being convicted purely based on what other people might do.

Then they came for the 14th Amendment, but I never really understood the rules for Due Process (and wasn't allowed an attorney), so I didn't object.

Then they came for the rest of the 1st Amendment, but I never told anyone about what the government was doing, so again I remained silent.

Then they came for the 5th Amendment, ...... and I no longer had the right to remain silent.

Answer 7

Indeed it is not. I find the Dumbyabots and the christianists, corporate hegemonists, and authoritarians who support the Dumbya Coup the most dangerous to the Constitution of the United States. TWO CROOKED "elections" are NOT a laughing matter to be considered "mischievious" or otherwise dismissed. WE HAVE BEEN THE VICTIMS OF THE MOST MAJOR CRIMES IN THE HISTORY OF THE USA, even if Dumbya is innocent of being a perp in the WTC attack. Infamously Dumbya said that his job is "... to catapult the propaganda." And can anyone EVER forget that he thinks "it would be a heck of a lot easier if it (the USA) was a dictatorship, just as long as I (Dumbya) am the dictator". Down with Dictator Dumbya!!!

Answer 8

There seems to be a balancing act between the amount of freedom we have and the amount of security we have. I agree that we need some security, but this is getting to be a police state. If all of our freedoms are curtailed for the sake of security, what are we really protecting? And who defines who or what is evil? Granted, it would be helpful to monitor calls to and from known terrorists, but where does it stop? I think it went too far when the government monitored the calls of the head of Greenpeace!

Answer 9

Liberals pure and simple are bogus fakes. Just look at the question I just posted a few minutes ago about why Bush has been a success. 13 rapid-fire responses by liberals, and all start out blathering their hateful insults toward me, but I don't read any further. I made my point and hit them right where they cannot stand it: the Supreme Court appointments. They HATE that more than anything because they were not able to stop it with their lies and distortions. The same kind of rot they fed people about Bush's foreign policy, which may not admittedly been always carried out in the best possible manner BUT at least it wasn't one of pacifist do-nothingisms like CLINTON, who allowed bin Laden and other terrorists worldwide to fortify theri arms and will to attack us and others. Liberals read a few books, usually by Michael Moore, and then spew hate at those who know more than they do. Bush, Rove and I laugh at such weak hate-mongering pissants.

Answer 10

This will be proved once again with the appeasement of Iran with the threat of sending their bombers to the USA. But then of course good old Al is just kidding right. He would never do that to us good American people. He views us as the best nation in the world with a heart full of love and kindness. That is the reason we can negotiate with him and he is so willing to listen. He would never consider bombing the USA since we can negotiate the situation, Remember a Democrat was in office when the Americans was held hostage in Iran. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis