Science proves there is a God.?

Question

If science can disprove God exists, but hasn't, then according to scientific theory, scientifically there must be a God...

Answer 1

Hi moshydog

Science can't either prove or disprove the existence of God. The reason for this is that in general god-concepts are not falsifiable.

Falsifiability is (at least according to Popper) central to science. Certainly any valid scientific theory must be falsifiable, which means it must be able to be disproven. To be disproven, a theory needs to make constricted or rigorous predictions which can then be counter-proven. For example big bang theory suggests that the universe evolved from a hotter, denser state, and so any rigorous evidence showing that the universe was not hotter in the past would falsify the theory. (In fact we have evidence that the universe was generally hotter in the past).

On the other hand, gods aren't restricted in a testable, falsifiable fashion. God's aren't bound by logical contradiction, or any other methodology of counter-proof. Anyone who suggests they can disprove the existence of god usually tries to do so by creating some set of characteristics which is supposed to define god, and then constructing a logical contradiction from these characteristics. But that doesn't work, because a believer can always say "god knows how to overcome your contradiction": gods aren't bound by logic. So god can't be disproven.


It's worth noting that your suggestion that "If science can disprove God exists, but hasn't, then according to scientific theory, scientifically there must be a God" is false. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence (in this case of disproof). Failure to disprove god exists doesn't in fact prove god exists.


To the poster further up the thread who suggested science only deals in absolutes: not true. A colleague of mine once stated that "All Science Is Wrong", meaning that eventually, and inevitably, all current theory will be superseded at some point. We certainly don't deal in absolutes, only in the best current approximation. That's a strength of science, rather than a deficiency.


Hope this helps!
The Chicken

Answer 2

I believe you are working from the logical argument "reductio ad absurdum", which is a technique in logic and mathematics for proofs. If you have difficulty proving something is true, you assume it is not true and then go about proving that it cannot be not true, and therefore must be true. In this question, you assume that simply by failing to disprove the existance of God proves that he exists, which is not logically sound. I would just like to say that scientists are not all devious atheists (but I am) twisting their mustaches and trying to disprove the existance of God. I have never heard of a scientist trying to do such a thing and I'm pretty interested an immersed in science (but of course, I can't speak for everyone). Plenty of scientists I've met are actually pious followers of a number of religious traditions.

In order for something to be scientific theory, the said theory must lend some method to be experimentally tested. Then data either supports or rejects the theory. Then once you actually establish a theory, it must have some kind of predictive value to be useful. Science is based on proof, faith is based on.....faith. You can't disprove god with empirical data any more than you can prove his existance with some crumbly, over-translated text.

So "No", even if scientists were working on disproving the existance of God (not interesting or even possible, in my opinion), that would make existance of God part of scientific theory.

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Man. Great post, as usual, Magic Chicken.

Answer 3

Science deals in absolutes. When it is 100% it is scientific fact, anything less is a theory. The Bible and other soft sciences can not prove God exists and so by your rational, that would prove that God does not exist.

According to the Bible the earth would be about 3000 years old, yet we have the bones of Dinasaurs, If you want to go down the path of carbon dating is not accurate and dinosaurs are not as old as science shows, wouldnt you think that the bible or some other religious book would make mention of these massive creatures that we know roamed the earth.

Science is right and religions are accurate. God set the big bang in motion and evolution.

Answer 4

Before Science can prove there is a God, it has to do deal with the other simpler things first, like black holes, a second before the big bang, higher order dimensions, human brain, etc.

If there is a God who created the Universe, Science is but primitive. It's getting better, but still primitve.

Answer 5

God doesnt exist. If it does please explain in what form, shape and sizes? Dont qoute bible coz anyone who believe in the goddamn tripe for answers are useless.

Answer 6

Do you think people are smarter than God?