Upon which legitimacy does Israel depend on it's existence in the middle east as a state. Does Israel have the right to exist. Don't ever mention in your answer that God promised the Jews to give them that land, this is a legend that we don't have to believe in.
Give me a reason that I should accept the existence of Israel.
In 1900 there were few thousands of Jews in Palestine, but after that; Zionists made a big propaganda to let the Jews in allover the world to travel, to immigrate to the promise land, to Israel.
And by establishing that state, over the historical land of Palestine, the Zionests forced 2 Million Palestinians to flee there lands by committing many massacres, by the help of the British occupying forces.
So is it the legitimacy of Force, is it the legitimacy of the stronger who kills the weaker that facilitated the establishment of Israel. Is there any legal, lawful, moral legitimacy for establishing the state of Israel.
Notice: Don't mention God's promis
2006-07-31 14:57:37 · 23 answers · asked by lrantisi 2 in Politics & Government ➔ Politics
I'm fairly neutral in this whole Israel/Palestine business, but I've done a lot of studying to try to understand the history. One thing I've concluded is that it's a lot more complicated than you describe. Ask many Israelis the history and their version will be very different than yours - equally biased, but in the opposite direction. I think that the truth lies in the middle somewhere. Both sides have legitimate grievances against the other and both sides have done unjust, unfair things to the other.
ANSWER: The strongest claim to legitimacy that Israel has is the "United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine" a.k.a. "United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181" (see first link under "Sources" below). I realize that many arguments can be made against that, but the United Nations is the closest thing we have to a world government.
2006-07-31 15:16:08 · answer #1 · answered by pollux 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
As I can recall, the United Nation officially recognized Israel as a legitimate nation and government right before or right after the 7? day war. Don't know exactly when but I do know as a fact that the UN did recognize them.
If that is not good enough then yes, the fall back is on "might makes right". But that has been the policy of every nation since the beginning of time. And I hope that you do not use that as an excuse that Israel should give up and be dissolved. Because if it is, then every nation would have to be dissolved because every nation took land by force at some time in history.
2006-07-31 15:08:35 · answer #2 · answered by rv9a2000 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The entire area was once the Ottoman Empire, which allied with Germany in WW I and of course lost to the other European countries. The British were given some of that empire, the French some by reason of conquest - there was no Palestine, no Lebanon, no Syria, no Jordan. These countries owe their modern existence to the League of Nations and the United Nations, just as Israel does.
If that does not make Israel a legitimate country, the others are not either. If the others are, Israel is.
2006-07-31 15:07:21 · answer #3 · answered by sonyack 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Every human have a right to exist. But founding a nation by the destruction of other established nation?
We all know, long before the foundation of israel, jews have lived in old the palistinian teritories, even in many other arab countries peacefully. So why suddenly the feel the necessity to establish their own nation. Do they have the right to establish their own country? Even when they are not welcomed by the neighbours?
No, I don't think so. I'm not telling you about the jews, many arabs are jews. What I'm talking about is the israelis.
the real problem is...they are exist now, legitimate or not.
2006-07-31 15:19:45 · answer #4 · answered by cerberus 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The Jews presently in Israel are not even the real Jews. The real ones are spread around the world. The Jewish population living presently in Israel are the people chased from Europe: Russia, Germany, etc. and put in the Middle East by the U.K. in order to make war with neighboring countries. Those people lived very hard lives and want to make others suffer like they did. They're playing God, which I don't think it's humanely right!
2006-07-31 15:06:02 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
The division of Palestinia and the creation of the three States (State Jewish, State Arab and State of Jerusalem under international administration), is voted by 33 votes against 13 with 10 abstentions.
Voted for: The United States of America, Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Bielorussia, Canada, Costarica, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, France, Guatemala, Haiti, Iceland, Liberia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, the Philippines, Poland, Sweden, Czechoslovakia, Ukraine, South African Union, the U.S.S.R., Uruguay and Venezuela.
Voted against: Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Syria, Turkey, Yemen.
Abstained from: Argentina, Chile, China, Colombia, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Honduras, Mexico, The United Kingdom, Yugoslavia.
The whole Arab world voted against the creation of the state of Israel and UN imposed Israel to them, in THEIR Arab area.
So if UN gave legitimacy to Israel, Arab world has also legitimacy to resist with colonization.
2006-07-31 15:38:12 · answer #6 · answered by Agathe 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Palestine and Israel must co-exist as different states because both have the elements of a state to exist such as population, sovereignty and government except for territory which was denied the Palestinians. Thus, Israel must give the Palestinians the portion of the territory to which they are entitled by historic right.
2006-07-31 15:04:01 · answer #7 · answered by FRAGINAL, JTM 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well...
We don't want to wipe out the Israeli an from this earth...
after all they are human like us...
They want to live with us...fine..live but don't kill us and rape our towns to make your own home...
Imagine after 1000 year the Indian natives...
Launch a war on American Citizens and Claim them that USA is for Indian...This is silly...
Plus Israel is a religious country...
that's mean...fake nation...
Imagine all the Muslims around the world came to Saudi Arabia and say...hay we are Muslims so we are Saudi...
What is the relation of African Jewish to Palestine...
He is African...maybe he was non religious for 2000 year and last 50 year became Jewish is this gave him the right to come to Israel...
Jewish is a religion for all not a nation for specific people......
It would be big problem if all humanity become Jewish...how can we push them to fit in Palestine...
Until they can understand we have the right to live on our land..
Accept their crimes and make justice for more than 2 million Palestinian who were forced to flee...
We will defend our self and fight to liberate our nation...
And as The Arab refused to accept Spanish people when Arab Occupied Spain for more than 700 year...finally The Spanish kicked the Arab out...that's exactly what will happen for those European Jewish..
VIVA Freedom Fighters..
VIVA Hezbollah...
VIVA Lebanon
2006-07-31 15:08:37 · answer #8 · answered by Alloush 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The British Empire created Israel on their mythical homeland after WW2.
America has enough space to easily give them a small state now that they have made their countries position untenable. It would be interesting to see how they would get on w. their new neighbors w. their belief that they are the chosen ones and everyone else is going to hell in a hurry.
2006-07-31 15:05:45 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
UN GA Resolution 181 established the state of Israel in 1947. Is that enough authority for you?
Most of their neighbors do not accept this resolution.
2006-07-31 15:14:00 · answer #10 · answered by SPLATT 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋