ok explain this one?

Question

1.woman gets an abortion it's called abortion not murder
2. woman kills herself while pregnent it just called a suicide and not a murder/suicide
3. a woman that is pregnent is killed by somone else is called a double murder.

Out of all three only one shows any signs of protecting the fetus/child and even thats an after the fact issue why is this and do you think it makes sense?

The only thing that remains the case for all three is the fetus/child had no choice......

Answer 1

Using tricky wording and simplifying of the law to communicate your hate for abortion is not notable. This is very obviously a biased question of which you already know what you want people to answer. Frankly, i htink this is a pathetic way of getting people "On your side" which tends to be the only plight of those against abortion.

You have NO right to tell me I can't use that technology that I am given to better my life. If you think you do, go live somewhere else, because America, the land of opportunity and freedom of choice is obviously not the one for you.

Answer 2

None of those thiree things protect the mother before the fact either, why single out the fetus as being unprotected? In terms of medical safety goes, abortions have improved over back alley coat hangar procedures, but with any procedure there is risk, so even there the mother would need protection.

The additional detail confused the heck out of me and I read all of the answers hoping someone would explain when the fetus/child had a choice.

Are stillborn kids really suicide?
If there are two fetuses but only one survives, did the survivor murder the non-survivor by hogging all of the nutrients or some other means? What happens if the mother dies in childbirth, how come the kid isn't charged with murder?

What kind of choice can a fetus express under any circumstances?

Answer 3

Ok, I can only answer a part of this question...but I find the question very interesting. When someone chooses to stay pregnant ( no abortion) that fetus grows into a baby. I don't know of many cases where a pregnant woman commits suicide. Usually they "live for the child" at least until it is born. The double murder thing....That was started relatively recently because of the lobbying that the pro-lifers have done. Beyond that, I have no idea.

Answer 4

Case 1: Woman does something to her own body.

Case 2: Woman does something to her own body.

Case 3: Other person does something to the woman's body without her consent.

A lot of things change when they are done without consent.

BTW, SgtSnafu is about 20 years out of date. Roe was partially overturned by Planned Parenthood v. Casey in 1992. The Casey decision does grant rights to the fetus, at the point where it is capable of surviving on its own (called viability). After the point of viability, abortions are only allowed where carrying the fetus to term would kill the mother. And still the preferred solution is to transplant the fetus to an incubator for the last few months.

Pre-viability, the states can still impose limitations on a woman's right to control what happens to her own body, as long as the burden is not an effective or absolute prohibition. That's because pre-viability, the embryo is not yet capable of independent existence, and the constitution does not permit sacrificing the rights of a living breathing person to be secondary to those of something that is not yet capable of independent life and thus not yet an independent person.

Answer 5

The Supreme Court decieded Rowe v Wade on the basis of a woman's right to choose. It assigned no rights to an unborn fetus. So in the case of abortion or suicide, it is the woman's choice, in the case where the woman is killed by someone else, she has no choice, therefore she and the fetus have been murdered.

Answer 6

It is called an abortion because it is a medical procedure.It is not murder if it lives off of her.. she is no more than a host ..
Can an fetus live without the mother.. NO it is living BECAUSE of her. That is why it is NOT murder.. also did you know that a misscarriage is also called an abortion!
In a car accident..depending on how far along the mother is.. if the child could survive without the mother..only then is it called a murder.. hope this helps...ohhh and it is NOT for ANYONE to JUDGE..

Answer 7

it all boils down to the point murder is murder. it doesnt make any sense when people say that when a man kills a woman who is pregnant that they had the choice of murdering her and that when a woman knows full well that when they walk into that door to kill a baby its still a choice she makes. now when a woman goes into the abortion clinic to abort all they do is stick this big vaccumm thing in her a tare the baby apart. now tell me this what is the differnece in between a woman going in to pay a doctor to tare a baby out of her and a man killing a woman and a baby. to me its sounds like there is a guilty party all around. hte thing about a woman killing herself while pregnant its pretty pointless to try a person for murder unless they are alive. im sorry these babies didnt asked to be brought into this world. the parents who make them should be more a ware of what they are doing and whoes lifes they are affecting.

Answer 8

Because Americans want to have their cake and eat it, too. The law officially states that if the child is "wanted" it's a life, and if it's not wanted, it's not. Whether a woman is in control of how her child dies makes absolutely no difference in the law. We have reached the point in this country where all the REAL legal battles have been fought, except, possibly the rights of the people that were on this continent first. We have everything a human being could ever ask for and more in this nation, and now we are going to court to fight for our "rights" to be irresponsible and not have to pay for it - or worse, to make society have to pay for it. We have become selfish, spoiled children making immoral arguments that sound rational to us because we are unable to look beyond ourselves to our neighbor (which includes an already conceived, living human being in the earliest stages of development - it can't grow and develop under it's own power unless it is alive, can it? Sure the mother provides adequate food and shelter, but the mother is not "making" it grow). Mother Theresa spent most of her life in the black hole of Calcutta caring for people so poor that they were dying of sickness and starvation, and she, herself, said that the United States was the most impoverished nation she had ever seen...and this is why.

Answer 9

Nope, this makes no sense at all to me. I think 3 is a crock. It should be murder, not a double murder. On a similar vein, I find it highly offensive that the death/murder of a child is so much more a tragedy than the death of someone older. The older people contribute to society, they take care of the young ones, the even older have valuable life experiences and wisdom to pass on to the younger ones. Yes, the young ones represent the future, but do you realise that without the older ones, the young ones will perish?

Answer 10

Sense? We're talking about humans here! Starvation kills more babies in the world than any other condition- so does it make sense that almost half of the DOGS in this country are overweight? And whose "Sense" are we talking about?- Yours, mine, whoever the Court picked to currently occupy the White House? And if the "law of the land" can tell a woman How she must run her body, then doesn't it just make "sense" -that the SAME powers that created that "law"- can also order women to bear boys only- because they're needed to defend our "National Security" in places like Iraq? Give me a break. I don't need to be told WHAT makes "sense". God gave us free will- & that means making personal choices. NO ONE knows "better" for anyone but themselves. THAT- makes "sense".