Do u think kids should be held back if they are falling behind?

Question

I think no!
1.they will proably be made fun of
2.their friends will move ahead while they well be left behind.
3.not much challenges repeating
4 social life in hs wont be good
5 will proably hate school

this was not done to me
but one of my friends were,and he hates school ever since, he just says he wishes his mom would just have sent him to tutiuring

Answer 1

I Agree with you -and I wonder ---- was this done to you????

Answer 2

It TOTALLY depends on the child and the circumstances. I'm gonna address each one of your concerns individually.
1. If the child is held back at an early age, chances are the other kids won't notice much one way or the other.
2. They'll make new friends. Life goes on.
3. If the curriculum was too difficult the first time around, it certainly won't be a cake walk the second time around. If it weren't challenging, they wouldn't be repeating the grade.
4. In HS, most people take whatever classes they need. With the exception of English, I was given free range of most classes. I took Geometry my freshman year (typically a sophmore class) and Drama my senior year (most people start off as freshman). If you didn't tell anyone you were held back, people probably wouldn't know one way or the other. You'd have to be extremely far behind to fail more than one class in HS, in which case you NEED to be held back.
5. If you're in HS and failing, you probably already hate school.

Bottom line, if you're in high school, you're old enough to pick up the pace and/or ask for help when you need it. High school isn't so difficult that it can't be passed. I don't feel much pity for your friend.

When it comes to younger students, however, I think it's really important to decide if holding the child back is the BEST solution. It's usually not unless the child is extremely low and hasn't mastered the curriculum...at all.

Answer 3

I think you have the wrong priorities.

1. They will be made fun of no matter what the topic.
2. They will make new friends. I'm 43 and don't have but one major friend prior to high school years that I still know and she was already a year ahead of me.
3. Challenges are not the point. It's the repeating of the same material. They will feel more confidence and also mature a little and learn to apply themselves.
4. My son has a better HS social life now than he use to. This is not a good reason either.
5. They all dislike school. You are the parent and if you feel the falling behind is causing a hardship. Hold them back. But I had the same concern and nothing is farther from the truth.

It's okay to feel these concerns, but for your child, depends on the reason for falling behind. I made my son repeat the 6th grade and at first I was reluctant, now I am glad for HIM that I did. make sure it isn't society or pressures from others.

Good luck. I do not feel the 5 reasons you list are concrete enough. Take care.

Answer 4

Sadly, I Believe yes - for lack of a better expression I feel a child will become 'messed up' if they progress a grade while not being of the standard as the learning curve will be too steep and so they will slide down and become very 'frustrated' and so antisocial - and if they cannot perform well at school - then they will inevitably hate school - Children like to do well and be praised for it. You will find that young school children are merciless to those who are different and If someone fails to perform to the standard they will be singled-out, further damaging the child's self-esteem.

One thing leads to another and their social life will suffer any way as a result of their own feelings towards school and thus the people in it - I believe children should be held back if they fall behind, many people I know have not hesitated - but it should generally be done at an earlier stage in the child's life before their social circle becomes too fixed - but if it is required later - education is not something to be compromised.

I have friends a year younger than me - infact most of my friends are in the year below me - A Child will find friends wherever he goes, and friends who are worth keeping will remain with the child even if they are held back (especially in later years, where the difference of a single year becomes negligible) -

The benefits outweight the cons - and it is indeed a dilemma because holding them back may disrupt their social life and cause them to harbour negative feelings regarding school, but then allowing them to progress and school does become progressively harder - and a weakness if not addressed can only get worse - so either way, the best way to go about it, is to make a child repeat a year.

Answer 5

What is the point of school? Are all my tax dollars going to fund your school so your kid can have a social life? Of course not. The point of school is to give the kid an education. There are tons of kids who are made fun of even though they're not held back, should we use that as an excuse to not send them to school at all? If you have a problem with bullying, confront that problem. Maybe the prospect of being made fun of will encourage the kid to do better in school. Same point with their friends moving ahead. If you want to stay with your friends, you should have to earn it. You can still see your friends after school, but school is not a social hour, it's a time for learning. And I bet repeating will be a challenge because the kid didn't pay attention the first time. If it's not a challenge, why couldn't he do it the first time? By not holding him back then, you're teaching him that it's ok to fall behind, but the real world doesn't work like that. On your fourth point, again, school is not social hour. School is for learning. He can have a fine social life in between classes and after class. And most kids hate school anyway, holding them back doesn't change that at all.

Answer 6

First and foremost, in the case of your friend, he should have received academic support during the school year. Tutoring is great but it needs to be part of the program from Day One. You can't fail a school year and expect to make up eight months of education in two months of summer holidays.

Not only kids, but ALL students should be held behind if they don't meet the criteria to pass the course. School isn't some arbitrary daycare center designed to give parents five days' holiday: there are prescribed learning outcomes that give students the skills and knowledge they need to successfully perform in the real world. If the learning outcomes aren't met, the student should repeat the program a second time. The skills you learn in school will influence every area of your adult life.

Here are my responses to your five points above:

1. Switch schools. Go to a different school in the same district.
2. See #1.
3. I don't understand what you're saying here.
4. The student's social life will probably be awesome, because he or she will be able to drive first, drink beer first, etc.
5. The student won't hate school if he or she is treated respectfully by his/her family and made to understand why repeating a grade is the best choice

Answer 7

In many respects you are correct. There is a downside to repeating a grade in this society however, as a teacher, I have had the experience that PARENTS have 'asked' us to keep their child back. There are so many pieces in place within the school systems now that address the social, physical and emotional issues of students - much more involved than when I was a student. Nobody had heard of ADHD, kids cutting themselves, depressed, on medication, or any of those things. Parents weren't hooked on drugs, in jail, kids being molested, etc. and all the other social ills that have crept into our homes which have hurt our young people and reflected badly on our schools, churches and society. As a result, many parents have an opportunity to sit down with school psychologists, teachers, administrators, doctors, etc and determine what their child specifically needs in order to be successful. Some may not be mature, some have had issues that have made them regress and they realize their child is not ready for the next grade level. There is nothing wrong with that. The idea is 'no child left behind' means, every child gets what they need. Some need at different times and it's our job to ensure they get it. Parents have to work with us and young people have to understand it is for their success that some things are done. If I had a child who was not prepared - I would not want him or her to go on to another grade. He or she could still be laughed at, etc. Communication at this time is very important. You should hear the kids talk - some of them have been kept back, and it's no big deal to them. They don't have the same attitudes about school life that we had. I would rather see the child be successful on the grade level that he can achieve, rather than pass them on when as a teacher - I know they are not ready and will drown without all the elements in place to back him up. With classroom sizes in upwards of 30-25 kids - you can bet that teacher will have a very difficult time trying to get one-on-one attention and help for that student. He would get lost in the shuffle. Rethink the idea. It's not so strange to repeat. Being successful and ready for the world is the better and bigger challenge.

Answer 8

YES!
1.If made fun of will build character.
2.Just because their friends "move ahead" doesn't some of those won't remain friends and or they will make new friends.
3.If they struggle to keep up in the first place, there's challenge enough.
4.Why wouldn't their social life in HS be good?
5.You can do a lot in the area of them hating school or not.

Answer 9

You have answered your own question. Kids shouldn't be advanced in school if they are falling behind. All that does is ensure they will fall further and further behind. You can't do long division if you can't do arithmetic. You can't do square root if you can't do long division. You can't do calculus if you can't understand the math. And so on, in every subject.
All that does is convince the student that:
a) he or she is stupid
b) he or she will never catch up
c) he or she won't understand what is going on
d) he or she will hate school
e) he or she will count the days until they are old enough to drop out.

So automatically advancing students for social reasons doesn't accomplish much either. As your friend suggested, tutoring could have provided the solution, helped the student to catch up and stay up with their classmates, and to enjoy learning.
Unfortunately, too many parents ignore the warning signs and can't or won't pay for private tutoring. That leaves the school with no choice but to hold the student back. It is an unhappy fact that students who are floundering in their work usually become discipline problems as well, and interfere with the learning processes of the other students.

Answer 10

Yes! If they are passed --
1. They'll be made fun of because they are ignorant.
2. Their friends will move ahead in life and they'll still be behind.
3. It should be a challenge for them to repeat and PASS.
4. Social life is not why children go to school, it's to LEARN.
5. They should forget about hating and concentrate on passing.

Education is important. Passing without getting an education is idiotic.

Answer 11

Absolutely not. Failing someone is not the answer. I flunked 5th grade, and I hated school ever since then. I was tormented and harassed and wanted to die. Every day was a living hell. If I had a second chance, in the grade I was supposed to be going into, with alternative ed. programs, school would have been more enjoyable. Kids can be SO mean.

All of your points on why you should not flunk someone are more then 100% true. Anyone that thinks so, needs to be dropped off in the middle of the desert with no water.

Hope this answers your question.