True Muslims are NOT terrorists...discuss.?

Question

I'm not a muslim, I'm not a Jew, I'm not a Christian.
I trully do believe that 95% of the Muslim religion are just trying to go about their every day lives just like we are.
There was always the freedom fighter v terrorism debate when it came to the IRA and Britain and I can see the point on both sides.

But consider this. Before the 'OCCUPIED TERRITORY' there were no problems with the middle east and the west.

The Israeli's/US/Britain/Russia all have masses of firepower at their disposal. Places like Lebenon, Palistine, Siria, Iraq, and Iran have minimal arms. If you want to fight against a world power with migs, B52 Bombers, Stealth bombers...wouldn't you fight dirty?
They will try any means possible to gain a satisfactory outcome. And you have to respect someone who will give their life for a cause that they surely must believe totally in - whether it's wrong or right.

I don't agree with killing children or anyone for that matter, but maybe there are just trying to win THEIR way.

After all, you can't have a terrorist if you're not afraid of them...

Countries who's powers claim to be following Islam and then endorse the killing of civilians are NOT true followers. They are using it as an excuse and giving a bad name to all those decent Mulsims out there.

Answer 1

ya u r right and i agree with zolo,
cuz zolo pretty much said everything there is to know, i just want to add that dont judge a whole religion by a couple of peoples decisions, for example there r lots of people in america that r christians by name only and they go around and rape women, does that mean that all christians go around and rape women....... no ....the same goes to terrorists and muslims...
as zolo said the media is trying to place a false face for islam and muslims..

i have to say that this is a good discussion that u started and we can go on forever discussing this.... and i would like to thank all of u who participated in this discussion

peace

Answer 2

Before the OCCUPIED TERRITORY there were no problems between the Middle East and the West..... What about the Crusades. What about the the Muslim invasion of Spain and Portugal and the subsequent Christian re-conquest. What about the Ottoman Empire's control over most of SE Europe for centuries.... need I continue...
And please explain why I should respect some moronic deluded idiot who blows himself up and murders a load of innocent civilians at the same time. How many times has a suicide bomber attacked a politician or a leader of a huge multinational corporation. You know somebody who has real power, rather than a cleaner travelling to work on a bus from Hackney because it's the only way she can afford to travel or a load of commuters on trains in Madrid.

Answer 3

Friend!
Bombers & fighters enter once bilateral talks fail!
But how it failed and why it failed - you can analyse very well because you are not a muslim or a Jew!
As an individual mostly every human is considerate and good. When they gather under a leader they are voilent. This is due to that leadership expect some sacrifice for their own benifits, conveyed to the listening public in the name of a religion at an appropriate time!

This is what happend, happening and will happen in Middle East.
Surrounded by Muslims Israel smartly tackling the troubles created by muslims. Jews underwent several acid tests and still were not acceptble to Muslims still call them "Qafir" and decare "Jihad" on Jews. They are responding for the Jihadis at Lebanon now! Once started it has to end completely, it should not stop abruptly anywhere and anytime! The pitiable subject is that they selected Lebanon as their test range to test their strength- efffect is seen in the media and Internet!!!!! Who is the benificiary and who is the loser???????

Mr. YAZ - I don't know where you are now. I had been to Saudi Arabia and stayed there for a couple of weeks.

Saudi Arabia is the most holy place for Muslims. There you apply the principles you had mentioned "how a Muslim has to behave and a who is the true Muslim"- For me the trouble started from Riyadh Airport - hell of nonsense - Unacceptable usage of language - And you call these people a true Muslim! After requesting I was not even given a galss of drinking water! One has to know the water don't have any religion does not belong to any religion and nobody claim the Almighty provided water only for them! Terrific! it was a night mare for me for about a couple of days and left the place as early possible on completing my assignment.

Wehre as in another country I met some Jews, they were helpful and considerate, even one of them invited me for a lunch on Sunday.

Friend that is love we see and feel, while we leave everything in our land and enter in another country!

Answer 4

The Muslim faith is about love and respect for others. The terrorist whether Muslin, Ira , Etta or any other use the faith as a propaganda tool. I don't think any right minded human being wants to see civilians killed especially children. Many terrorists come from poor economic backgrounds. In that situation they are brain washed into believing the words of fanatics that their way is the only way. It will get then into the life after as a martyr or bring riches to their people. Wars will never solve a dispute. I would like to see every leader in the world sit down and discuss one topic "How can we live in peace and bring food and health to everyone in the world".

Answer 5

Right you are. They are Islam extremists who are causing the problems. Most Muslims are hard working people who want the best for their children, not to blow themselves up or kill women and children. The extremists are anti progress and would be at home 2000 years ago, with no luxuries even running water or simple sanitation. Oh what a wonderful world that would be! Don't forget after Israel left the disputed territories five years ago, the first thing they did was destroy all the farms the Israelis had created out of a dessert!

Answer 6

True Muslims ARE terrorists.....discuss? You talk like they're defending themselves, from who or what? The United Nations set up these lands that you are calling "occupied territory" from the Turkish Ottoman Empire. Israel is non-Muslim and the ONLY democracy in the Middle East (before Iraq), Israel has never started a conflict, all have been started by your "peaceful" Muslims. I could go on and on about this subject but you would refuse or be unable to comprehend.

Answer 7

Don't be so naive, A terrorist is a civilian fighting a military fight ( non military combatant) nothing to do with if ur scared or not of them.

trouble with east and west have been going for centuries.

get your facts right before posting a load of horse manure

only part you have right is not every muslim is a terrorist, but what about the 50% of the muslims popultaion supporting the cause

Answer 8

It's not true to say that terrorists have nothing to do with terror.

A terrorist is anyone whether they're military or civilian, who uses terror as a means of acheiving a given political aim.

And of course not all Muslims are terrorists. Anymore than all Christians, Jews, Sikhs, Buddhists are etc.

I think questions like this get asked because people are addicted to asking questions and run out of decent ideas for questions worth asking!!!!!

Answer 9

I am a Muslim and it is true that OVER 95% of Muslim are just trying to go through life just like everybody else. Muslim's are not different than you or anyone else. Just because a person has a different religion doesn't mean that he or she don't face day to day dilemmas like relationship problems, financial obligations, what to wear, where to go out for fun etc... Especially Muslim teenagers. A vast majority do travel, go on dates, go clubbing and throw parties, wear the most fashionable clothes etc.. Is that your idea of terrorists? I think not. The way media portrays Muslim's in general is sad and completely not true. The media only represent a small minority of people who misunderstand the true meaning of Islam (the religion of piece).

The Encyclopedia Britannica calls Mohammad “the most successful of all religious personalities of the world.” George Bernard Shaw said, “if Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) were alive today, he would succeed in solving all those problems which threaten to destroy human civilization in our times.” Thomas Carlyle was amazed as to how one man, single-handedly, could weld warring tribes and wandering Bedouins into a most powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades.

If people everywhere grasps the true meaning of Islam, the world would be a better place

regarding 9/11 and similar attacks on innocent people Prophet Muhammad would have never condoned such acts. In one of the battles, when he, peace be upon him, saw an old woman who was killed by Muslim soldiers, he shouted in anger:



"Why was she killed? Was she a fighter? She does not look like a fighter! Why was she killed?!"



So, as a Muslim, this is a lesson for me to differentiate between combatants and innocent civilians. This is even in the middle of a battlefield, let alone in peaceful cities or communities.


Islam has strict rules on how to treat enemies during war/battles and even POW
http://www.islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/politics/System/article05.shtml
http://www.islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/politics/System/article02.shtml

Islamonline.net is answers a lot of questions that many non-muslims have about Islam! Please check it out!

There are people who think that “a perfect Muslim” is simply one who is correct in the observance of the salah (ritual Prayer), the fasting, the zakah (payment of a certain portion of one’s wealth to the poor), and the Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah). This indeed is not the case. If the ritual observances do not help the person to be humble, virtuous and truly God-fearing, then he or she is not a real Muslim. A Muslim should be good and just in dealing with others, no matter their religion, and take special care to keep away from all the shameful and sinful things Allah (God) has forbidden.

We can summarize the teachings of Islam about the Muslim character succinctly in this form:

Be truthful in everything, don’t lie.

Be sincere and straightforward, don’t be hypocritical.

Be honest, don’t be corrupt.

Be humble, don’t be boastful.

Be moderate, don’t be excessive.

Be reserved, don’t be garrulous.

Be soft-spoken, don’t be loud.

Be refined and gentle in speech, don’t curse and use foul language.

Be loving and solicitous to others, don’t be unmindful of them.

Be considerate and compassionate, don’t be harsh.

Be polite and respectful to people, don’t be insulting or disrespectful.

Be generous and charitable, don’t be selfish and miserly.

Be good natured and forgiving, don’t be bitter and resentful.

Share and be content with what Allah has given you, don’t be greedy.

Be cheerful and pleasant, don’t be irritable and morose.



Muslims should be loving to each other

Be chaste and pure, don’t be lustful.

Be alert and aware of the world around you, don’t be absent-minded.

Be dignified and decent, don’t be graceless.

Be optimistic and hopeful, don’t be cynical or pessimistic.

Be confident and have deep faith, don’t be doubtful and wavering.

Be spiritually oriented and not materialistic.

Be confident of the mercy of Allah, don’t be despairing and lose heart.

Be diligent and vigilant of your duties, don’t be negligent.

Be thankful to Allah and constantly pray to Him, don’t be forgetful of His innumerable blessings

http://www.islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/topic05.shtml

Answer 10

Muslims have a duty to rid the world of fitnah. Particularly Sayyid Qutb, an Islamic scholar, describes the peaceful world that the world would be a utopia under Islamic theocracy. Islam is a political as well as a religious system. Terrorism is a methodology sanctioned by Allah!

Qur'an [Surah Al-Anfãl (8):39] {Eng, Ar, transliteration}:
So fight them (unbelievers) until there is no more fitnah (disbelief or worship of any god but Allah) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)" ... "And fight with them until there is no more fitnah (persecution) and religion should be only for Allah

وَقَتِلُوهُمْ حَتَّى لَا تَكُونَ فِتْنَةٌ وَيَكُونَ الدِّينُ كُلُّهُ لِلَّهِ فَإِنْ انتَهَوْا فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ بِمَا يَعْمَلُونَ بَصِيرٌ

Waqatiloohum hatta la takoona fitnatun wayakoona alddeenu kulluhu lillahi fa-ini intahaw fa-inna Allaha bima yaAAmaloona baseerun

Allah commands deeds of terror by the believers against the unbelievers as the means of creating the emotion of terror in their hearts. The only reason needed for action is that "they resisted Allah and His Messenger". Such an approach to "conflict management" is nothing to be ashamed about according to Islamic understanding, but it is a basis for pride. According to Islam, it is one reason for the superiority of Muhammad over all other prophets.

Qur'an [Surah Ãli-´Imrãn (3):151]
We will throw terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, since they set up besides GOD powerless idols. Their destiny is Hell; what a miserable abode for the transgressors! (Khalifa trans.)

سَنُلْقِي فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا الرُّعْبَ بِمَا اشْرَكُوا بِاللَّهِ مَا لَمْ يُنَزِّلْ بِهِ سُلْطَنًا وَمَاوَهُمْ النَّارُ وَبِئْسَ مَثْوَى الظَّلِمِينَ

Sanulqee fee quloobi allatheena kafaroo alrruAAba bima ashrakoo biAllahi ma lam yunazzil bihi sultanan wama/wahumu alnnaru wabi/sa mathwa alththalimeena

Qur'an [Surah Al-Anfãl (8):12-13]
Recall that your Lord inspired the angels: "I am with you; so support those who believed. I will throw terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved. You may strike them above the necks, and you may strike even every finger. This is what they have justly incurred by fighting GOD and His messenger. For those who fight against GOD and His messenger, GOD's retribution is severe.(Khalifa trans.)

إِذْ يُوحِي رَبُّكَ إِلَى الْمَلَئِكَةِ أَنِّي مَعَكُمْ فَثَبِّتُوا الَّذِينَ ءامَنُوا سَأُلْقِي فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا الرُّعْبَ فَاضْرِبُوا فَوْقَ الْأَعْنَاقِ وَاضْرِبُوا مِنْهُمْ كُلَّ بَنَانٍ
ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمْ شَاقُّوا اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَمَنْ يُشَاقِقْ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ شَدِيدُ الْعِقَابِ

Ith yoohee rabbuka ila almala-ikati annee maAAakum fathabbitoo allatheena amanoo saolqee fee quloobi allatheena kafaroo alrruAAba faidriboo fawqa al-aAAnaqi waidriboo minhum kulla bananin. Thalika bi-annahum shaqqoo Allaha warasoolahu waman yushaqiqi Allaha warasoolahu fa-inna Allaha shadeedu alAAiqabi

Qur'an [Surah Al-Anfãl (8): 59-60]
Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of God and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom God doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of God, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. (Yusuf Ali trans.)

وَلَا يَحْسَبَنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا سَبَقُوا إِنَّهُمْ لَا يُعْجِزُونَ
وَأَعِدُّوا لَهُمْ مَا اسْتَطَعْتُمْ مِنْ قُوَّةٍ وَمِنْ رِبَاطِ الْخَيْلِ تُرْهِبُونَ بِهِ عَدُوَّ اللَّهِ وَعَدُوَّكُمْ وَءاخَرِينَ مِنْ دُونِهِمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَهُمْ اللَّهُ يَعْلَمُهُمْ وَمَا تُنفِقُوا مِنْ شَيْءٍ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ يُوَفَّ إِلَيْكُمْ وَأَنْتُمْ لَا تُظْلَمُونَ

Wala yahsabanna allatheena kafaroo sabaqoo innahum la yuAAjizoona. WaaAAiddoo lahum ma istataAAtum min quwwatin wamin ribati alkhayli turhiboona bihi AAaduwwa Allahi waAAaduwwakum waakhareena min doonihim la taAAlamoonahumu Allahu yaAAlamuhum wama tunfiqoo min shay-in fee sabeeli Allahi yuwaffa ilaykum waantum la tuthlamoona

Dr. Ayman Zawahri (za WAH ri), is a leader of Al-Qaida, (Sunni Muslims). He has declared, as may other Muslim militant leaders, that the conflict between Hezbollah and Israel meets the conditions for jihad fee sybil Allah and that it is incumbent for all Muslims to join the fight. Otherwise, there are many sectarian differences between the Sunni Al-Qaida Muslims and the Shiite Hezbollah Muslims. However, for the cause in Lebanon they may join forces to fight against Israel.

Qur'an [Sura Al-Qasas (28):39] {Eng, Ar, transliteration}:
Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to assist them; (Shakir trans.)

Permission to take up arms is given to those against whom war is made, because they have been wronged and ALLAH, indeed, has power to help them (Sher Ali trans.).

- أُذِنَ لِلَّذِينَ يُقَتَلُونَ بِأَنَّهُمْ ظُلِمُوا وَإِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلَى نَصْرِهِمْ لَقَدِيرٌ

Othina lillatheena yuqataloona bi-annahum thulimoo wa-inna Allaha AAala nasrihim laqadeerun

Qur'an [Surah al-Hujurat (49):15]
Mumim (true Muslims) believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and without doubt they strive in the cause of Allah( jihad fee Sybil Allah) with their wealth and their lives. Those! They are the sincere.

إِنَّمَا الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الَّذِينَ ءامَنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَرْتَابُوا وَجَهَدُوا بِأَمْوَلِهِمْ وَأَنفُسِهِمْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ أُوْلَئِكَ هُمْ الصَّدِقُونَ

Innama almu/minoona allatheena amanoo biAllahi warasoolihi thumma lam yartaboo wajahadoo bi-amwalihim waanfusihim fee sabeeli Allahi ola-ika humu alssadiqoona

Answer 11

well, first of all, wat is the definition of terrorism?
Currently, it has been taken like that "every muslim, who tries to act on islam in his daily life, prays regularly, has beard, is a suspected terrorist.

If he kills someone in his defence, its terrorism and if Israel, USA , UK or any other non muslim country kills muslim, its that they are fighting for the PEACE.

What the hell??

Any sort of a muslim is not terrorist at all. Its the media which is showing false to the people.

For Example The talibans in Afghanistan, people still remember them.

Under their rule, women, who used to work , were sent to homes, and their salary was continously given to them.
As women is not to be work like man. Her body is not as strong as Man. She cant work as hard as man. They realised that and gave exhemption to woman.

Evon Ridley, is a journalist, who was caught be Taliban,. They keep her in prison for a while, and when came back, She converted to Islam. She said that "Thanks God, I was in the hands of Taliban, not in Abu Graib Jail( In IRaq)".
She has written two books namely
1) A ticket to paradise
2)In the hands of Taliban,

(Just google on these 2 books)

Read them , if u ppl have time. You will get to see true face of islam in it.

There is a lot to say abt muslims. The bottom line is that , ISRAEL, USA , UK have now targeted muslims and they are doing every thing they can to eliminate muslims, with out any reason.

UNO is with them and every is wid them. Not a single human rights association has pointed out wat has been happening in Palestine, IRaq and AFghanistan for years. Had it been USA., UK or any other country inm place of AFghanistan,IRAQ or LEbanon, there would have been lots of resolutions being passed in UNO, NATO forces being sent against that country etc etc.

Are only Jim, Tim are humans? are Hamza, Ali, Imran, Usama not humans????