Does anyone know what is the way out of the mess that middle east is in?

Question

With the premise that
Israel should exist.
Palastinians should exist.
And they should co-exist peacefully.
One cannot wipe the other off the face of the earth.
And accepting that what ahmadinejad of Iran says " we should ship the jews all back to where they came from" is rediculous, and borders on insanity.
And also acknowleding the violence begets more violence.

Can some constructive ideas be discussed.
A comprehensive solution that respects all concerned (equally)

Answer 1

Sure, all they have to do is S T O P --- F I G H T I N G !!!!!

Answer 2

There is no way, maybe a nuke all over the earth, erase all humans and let the animals re populate the earth.

If I had the possibility, give the Jews the land they cry about, make a big wall so they are not bothered, force EVERY JEW to make aliyah so they don´t disturb the other nations like they had made since 2000 years ago, and wait for their supposed messiah all they want.

Just in case, before that, bomb the Abraham mosque and the temple wall, just for the problem that had caused to the majority of the world.

Obviously I´m forgetting than, to give land to Israel, i need to wipe out the whole Arab population, which is in fact immensely larger than all the Jewish diaspora. And that causes big trouble, just when they decided to "return" to their land after 2 thousand years. If you forget about the importance of the bible, or the Jewish bible, since they make a tiny percentage of the world population, is like emptying the USA of everyone except native American descent people, because they where there first, and this is not from a biased book.

So, as you see there is no really a way to solve that, I´ll go for the human elimination, is quicker and more effective.

Answer 3

I am going to try and look at finding a solution in as calm and dispassionate way as possible. If you don't want to read fair-minded (I think) criticism of Israel, read no further, please.

There was (relative) peace in the Middle East before Israel was 'created'.
I think this could be taken as a fact. So, the creation of Israel is the 'starting point' of the conflict in the Middle East. Israel cannot be 'obliterated', as some Middle Eastern leaders would like.
Two reasons: First, not all Israelis hate all Muslims like some would like us believe, and vice versa.
Second, Israel has nuclear capability, which they would use if pushed too far.
My solution would be that for once the US supports the UN and a 'Peace Conference on the Middle East' must be called for.
The purpose of this Conference would be to 'legitimise' the existence of Israel in the eyes of the Arab and Muslim world.
A sort of 'belated permission' for the existence of Israel. (Now I am going to have 'Zionists' screaming blue bloody murder, but no matter, they always scream blue bloody murder anyway)
One thing is as clear as daylight, there will NEVER be peace in the Middle East, if the countries in the Middle East are not comfortable with the 'presence' of Israel. A peaceful Israel.
Israel should stand before the Muslim and Arab world and ask for
forgiveness, and give a pledge to follow a good-neighbour policy.
That would also mean withdrawal from all occupied territories.
With Israeli technology and assistance, places like Gaza and Lebanon, (which they have destroyed) would be rebuilt, and made viable.
What advantages would my plan have?
One, the billions of dollars that the US and Israel spend on arms would be spent on social and humane services.
(The reason Hezbollah is so popular in Southern Lebanon, is because they have built a social infrastructure. That is also to a certain extent why Hamas won in Palestine)
Two, the only way there will EVER be peace in the Middle East would be
a) The complete destruction of Israel, which is a recipe for the complete destruction of the Middle East, (They have nukes, remember?) and possibly of the whole planet. Which the majority of us would not like at all. So, this is a BAD option.
b) The 'acceptance' of Israel by the Muslim and Arab world. (Israel has gone about achieving this in a very counter-productive way, and a continuation of this 'method' will only perpetuate 'terrorism' until the Middle East is one big bloodbath.) Here the ball is in Israel's court, and in spite of everything they say, they are regarded as the 'unwelcome impostors', the 'johnny-come-latelys' The way I see it, they have not been very good neighbours since they moved into the region. (And they must stop trying to make the rest of us feel guilty about the Holocaust, that's between them and a man called Adolf Hitler, nothing to do with Mr Average American or Ms Ordinary European)
So, Israelis, would you rather have peace and prosperity in an 'accepted' Israel, or forever be afraid to go to the supermarket , restaurant or cinema, for fear of being bombed by some lunatic of your own creation?
All it is going to cost you is some genuine humility. (Something like all of you are demanding from Mel Gibson. Repentance and humility)

Answer 4

Yes I do

1. Immediate cease fire from both sides.

2. Current borders set as permanent and then recognize a Palestinian state internationally.

It is that simple believe it or not.

I really believe that once the Palestinians get their own state, some of them will calm down with this constant hate of Israel. The way things are now is kind of like a ppl without a 'recognized' home.

Of course there will always be those who oppose Israel but once Palestine beging to build it's own infrastructure and starts desiring to be a repected nation (once they get to be called a nation), in time as generations pass, it will get better.

BUT like I said, it can not even BEGIN until they get statehood.

Also, I have said exactly what you stated before. That Israel has been there almost 60 years now, they have given back a lot of land, established a society,etc.. so it is ridiculous at this point to make them leave. Instead we need to be finding ways to work this out... to compromise.

I would even be willing to say that we give Palestine A LOT of aid if they would accept statehood and agree to peace. The aid would be a signal that we support an infrastructure for them. (I say for them to 'accept' because Clinton offerred Arafat statehood but he refused due to border controversy.)

Btw, I am focusing on Palestine because if they would ever accept peace with Israel, others would follow.

Answer 5

Yes, but many people won't like my answer:
I think the USA should back completely off in the Middle East, pull every single member of our military out of there and as many citizens as will come. They we announce to the various parties that they are on their own, and sit back and let it happen. We can sit back in a position around Italy and Indian with what ships and planes we want, iin force. The ground rules will basically be that the war that will undoubtably happen there will be confined to a large specific region, but we will blast the first combatant we crosses into Europe or India. Then, we can deal with whoever is left standing. We cannot force them to love eachother and be peaceful. It hasn't ever worked and can never work. We are not the sollution. It is harsh and real, but it will happen eventually anyway. We can't keep our fingers in the dikes there anymore. Let them have the war that they are so determined to have.

Answer 6

Yes, the Messiah will soon come and He will wipe the wicked off the face of the earth, expand Israels borders and they Jews will finally live in peace. But until then and as long as Islam exists and the muslims are so full of HATE then there is not a lot one can do.
Even Kofi Annan is SO corrupt and his son has been caught with his hands in the till too. Kofi also makes anti Semitic statements what can the world expect

Answer 7

First of all, the middle east is and will always be a hot bed of murder and mayhem. It's been going on for thousands of years and will continue to be that way. Nobody on this earth will ever be able to change this. EVER. I supported Bush when this whole Iraq thing started Sadam is an evil and cruel man. But now our service people are being murdered every day, I think by the end of the year they don't have their **** together, we should pull out. As far as the rest of the mess?? Why can't they figure out their own sh**

Answer 8

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back.

The frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?"

The scorpion says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

Replies the scorpion: "It's my nature."


You can't negotiate with scorpions. You only have three choices.

1. Kill them.
2. Avoid them.
3. Be willing to loose a few frogs now and then.

'2' is not possible.

'3' is not acceptable.

Answer 9

They need to move the borders back to the 1967 line and give Palestinians back their land. Then the US needs to stop giving billions of dollars of our tax money to the Israeli government so they cannot afford to terrorize the Palestinian people anymore. Remove all Israeli control of the Palestinian land. Give Palestine their own state that they control. It has been proposed as said over and over again by many and even the UN has referendums calling for it. Israel and America refuse this. It is really that simple.

Answer 10

The way:
1) Israel should give up the occupied lands of Palestine,Syria and Lebanon
2) Israel should free the 10000 prisoners held in its prisons
3) Israel should allow the Palestinians to have their own state with its capital in East Jerusalem
Then there will be peace

Answer 11

How long will this sibling rivalry exist? Both are said to come from Abraham. Giving the Palestinians a home land gives the Israelis a target to attack when the stupid bombers chose to blow themselves up. The Palestine's' government has to then educate their population to create wealth for themselves and give up hate for the past perceived injustices.