What's the difference between this and Zionism?

Question

Fact: the Jewish people of Europe were victims of a genocide which culminated centuries of persecution, thievery, and murder at the hands of European despots.
Fact: the native peoples of America were victims of a genocide culminating centures of thievery, persecution, and murder committed by various european despots and american administrations.

Apply the zionist solution for their legitimate grievances to the native peoples' legitimate grievances, and all euro-americans (even those, like me, whose people came in the early 20th century) would be forcibly removed from their homes and put into camps. Whither our kids, who share dh's native american blood and my euro- peasant blood?
Mexico and Canada would be scolded for not taking us. The U.N. recognized govt of the Native Peoples Nation would have 2-tier citizenship, with full human rights for only 'tribe' members. Those of us who resisted would be called terrorists as we tried to save our homes and grab the world's eye

My great-grandfather's brother died in Auschwitz in 1942.

Now, if zionism applied to the Native People's legimate grievances and my description is what it would look like, would it then be right? Does Israel still seem the proper solution? How would you improve it.

Rule: Your solution cannot involve killing people. It's been done, with little success.

My question says nothing about Israel stealing land, so what question are you responding to,ubd? Please tell more about massacres, with citation and how they differ from Israel's massacre in s. leb in 82. Are yours like Indian massacres of white settlers or white settler massacres of Indians?

Palestine was a land under imperial governments, which switched hands in WWI. Hitler's genocide caused UN and Britain to legalize the dream of zionists who'd been settling in the land of their distant ancestors since the late 19th century. Britain, despite its intellectual human rights' legacy, set up a situation designed to bring strife and enmity to peoples who'd been sharing a land at least since Mohammed encouraged confederations between Jews, Christians, and Muslims.
In this way, UK and now USA retain control over the energy resources of a people we've divided, distracted, and conquered.
And Jews still are neither safe nor free. As all people, even Palestinians, deserve to be.

Answer 1

What's the difference between this and Zionism?

Effectiveness.....Zionism is alive and well and experiencing notable success.

Unfortunately.

The cost in lives and other resources, good will, and peace are obviously not too high, because most of these costs are borne by others.

What a deal.

Answer 2

I completely agree with you.

Israel forgets it's Zionist terrorist roots. And America has NO idea.

Palestinian terrorism is a reaction to Israeli land thievery, and the land thievery was achieved through state terrorism made possible by traditional terrorism by Yitzhak Shamir and other Israeli heroes in the 1940s.

Israel needs at the very least to withdraw from the West Bank and remove all settlements. Without Israeli apartheid I think most Palestinians will now accept a two-state solution. The extremism is born of desperation.

Answer 3

people who bypass on rants approximately Zionism are fairly basically retaining their hatred of Jews by using distinctive words. putting forward you like Jews, yet can no longer stand the vast majority of Jews indoors the worldwide (who're Zionists--via using fact of this they think Israel has a genuine to exist), would not fool each and every physique. EDIT: And the better comments are basically as predictable.

Answer 4

Wow, study your history,

The israelis stole NO land, the Palistinians left willingly, many at the urging of other arab countries.

This is supported by reports from the U.N.

Try learning your facts before spouting this crap.

Oh, and i guess that the Arab massacres of Jews prior to 1948 were done in response to israel? They massacred them because they thought they may form israel in the future and get thrown off their land?

Answer 5

I heard a lot from heaps of people that organisations like the masonic club and rotary club all around the world supports the zionist movement. I also heard that every time you go to macdonalds, 50c out of each dollar you spend goes to the purchase of weapons for the zions.