One of the many words often used to describe god is "perfect"
perfect by definition means comeplete
My question is that if god is perfect, how could he have any "need" or "want" that would drive him to create
2006-07-26 18:15:41 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities ➔ Philosophy
A perfect being is a creator himself and does not have a "need" or "want" perse for it. It's just part of being perfect. Procreation.
2006-07-26 18:20:08 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
if the perfect being is the creator, it has already created because we are here.. If the being created, we can assume it "wanted" to because it did. I can't see what sort of being could force a creator to create if it didn't want to.
A "need" is different than a want. The need to create can only be because there is a void in creation to be filled. To "need" means there is more to create, or that the current creation can be expanded.
Tie this into astronomy and the expansion of the universe, and I say, "yes", a perfect being can need and want to create to expand itself and become more than it was, even though it was not "incomplete" before when it was all that it was before it expanded it's completeness.
If we could take a complete apple and make it bigger, it would not be any more completely an apple, it would just be a bigger apple, and still complete.
2006-07-27 01:51:53 · answer #2 · answered by Chris 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Gee....... You've answered you own question haven't you???
As I've said countless times...... Human Beings are inherently flawed by DESIGN!!!! Meaning.... we're made in its image, hence the blueprint is the same. Adam and Eve were NOT perfect nor was/is "God". And NO, a "perfect" being would not have the need, want, desire to create, procreate etc etc etc. If simply being bored or lonely was the reason.... again NOT perfect.
"Complete", "without flaw".... people can use any term they wish and it still turns out the same. Now, Being COMPARED to human beings it could very well be classified as "perfect" because its far more advanced than we are. In that sense I think is most often how those terms are used and defined. But "Perfect" in and of itself.... LOL Not bloody likely!
2006-07-27 01:37:45 · answer #3 · answered by Izen G 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
There are three aspects to perfection:
1. Complete identity (clarity and distinctness).
2. Complete harmony (coherence and compatibility).
3. Complete precision (having all that's needed and nothing that isn't needed).
So, you are right - God, if perfect, lacks nothing and thus has no needs. God could have wants, or even whims - that's one reason why His believers need to describe Him as a Mega-Person. But would a perfect being be a Person? Only human arrogance wants to think so. Of course, wants and whims are not needs, so oops! for God the Person.
My opinion is that God the Person is incomplete - completely incomplete.
2006-07-27 01:29:07 · answer #4 · answered by brucebirdfield 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
If what you say is true, perfection as complete defers to a process, a meeting of shared "paths." But, your question rests on the the premise of a perfect singualrity and desire. It can be argued that humans have injected their sensations and stories of desire onto a perfect singularity; implicit in this in Christianity is that we being created in its likeness, are echoing that desire. Yet, desire reqires choice of one option over another and divergent properties cannot exist in a singularity. Creation, however, can be argued as a process determined by scale, at which point, if infinite, time is useless in measuring creation, therefore creation through choice just "is." It's my take that arguing with religious zealots about what THEY desire won't convert the converted. If I want their interpretation of a god's desires, I'd ask them to show me how to make a holy sandwich the way their god would like, that way we both benefit: they get their talking done and I get a potentially blessed, but likely really good meal prepared for me.
2006-07-27 02:00:51 · answer #5 · answered by silas h 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I do not agree that perfect means to suppress your needs or desires. perfect means to control your needs or desires such that they do not bring unhappiness to you.
Anyway, if God created us, we need not ask why he created us because you & me would not be here to ponder this question.
And now that he has created us, we ought to be thankful to him and bring ourselves happiness and share our happiness with all other earth fellows at the same time control our desires in a way that we do not get too indulged and whenever we fail to achieve any of our desires, we do not get so disappointed that we become sorrowful.
Smile.
2006-07-27 03:22:35 · answer #6 · answered by vinod s 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
As I read Genesis, it seems that man was simply part of the creation of the earth, as were the plants and animals. And why should being perfect preclude desires and ambition to accomplish? That's nonsense.
2006-07-27 01:36:24 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
a perfect being has a need or a want to create....with out were all lost!!
2006-07-27 01:20:28 · answer #8 · answered by Jaydra 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
that's cuz you've been fooled/
How can a being or entity of perfect love, holiness, and
mercy create something that would create war, starvation,
and horrific violence/Oh, wait...that stuff comes from the
serpent in the garden that is ALLOWED to tempt us...
2006-07-27 01:45:29 · answer #9 · answered by BluesGuitarFan 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
You state:
Perfect, to be complete.
To be complete, to be without desire.
Logical fallacy or word association gone wrong?
A Person can be complete and still have desires.
2006-07-27 01:56:42 · answer #10 · answered by mwrc09 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋