GAY: Choice or Not?

Question

~Is homosexuality a choice? When you make decisions (also called choices) that is a choice isn't it? We may be INCLINED to prefer a male vs. a female, but whether to engage in sex or not is certainly a choice no? God given free will?
~Animals don't make choices, they run on instinct. Humans are supposed to have the mental capacity to discern right and wrong, good choices/bad choices.
~Do homosexuals have a choice, or are they driven by instinct, like an animal? And do you want children around people who claim they have no control over their behavior? If you can't handle the question, go away, the adults are trying to talk ok?
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Follow up.
1. It seems a lot of gay people have been abused as children, connection? Even a little?
2. Are all sexual behaviors choices or natural born? There are TONS of sexual proclivities, sex with animals, sex with dead people etc. Are they normal too? Can't they make the claim they are born that way?

Answer 1

you shouldn't be gay because the are freaks and are supposed to be straight.

Answer 2

If some straight people really believe that sexuality is a choice, then that means they believe every person is bisexual (has the capacity to go either way) and if they think we have a choice, then that means there was a time in their own lives when they themselves had to decide if they wanted to be straight or gay. So you do agree then that God made YOU bisexual, yes?
And you made a choice to be straight...am I correct? Because that is what you are basically saying when you say that "we chose to be gay". Why would we have the ability to choose to be gay...but you were born straight? I don't get it. Where was I when all the kids at school were trying to decide whether to be gay or straight? Were there discussions and forums with adults helping to lead us to the better decision?

If it was a choice, why are there so many tormented teens who commit suicide? They could just have easily chosen to switch rather than kill themselves.

If we were able to, we would have ALL chosen to live in the safer, easier world of heterosexuality, but we couldn’t because our sexuality is something that we cannot choose or change.
And if it were a choice…why would anyone choose a lifestyle that causes divisions and harassment with friends, family and society?
Fundamentalist like to say we have a choice because it makes us responsible for making ourselves gay. In so doing, it makes it OK for them to make judgments about us that ONLY GOD CAN MAKE. And it seems even the Father does not judge us. See John 5:22. In condemning us, they are putting themselves in the position of God…and we know what Jesus said about these kinds of people

Answer 3

All I know is there was this study. They put a whole bunch of rats in an overcrowded living space. Turns out some rats "turned" homosexual. It was a survival thing apparently triggered by nature. So I think that it's NOT a choice. You say humans have a choice, but it has also been said that the need to reproduce is "hard wired" into people. I don't think it's a good "choice" to have nations of children born into poverty and starvation, but it's happening in the world. People can't afford to eat and yet have children. Where's the morality in that? But, again, maybe they have no choice either. You can't have it both ways. I think you should leave god out of it.

Answer 4

Wow come out of the closet babe the right man could fix all this for ya ....lol

. In order to see what is natural, we must look to nature. In nature, every mammal has been observed taking part in same-sex activities, affection, and bonding. In some animals, homosexuality increases during times of overpopulation—sort of nature's birth control.

In nature, by the way, what is decidedly not natural is monogamy—especially for life. The only mammals who even sometimes mate for life are foxes, wolves, gibbons, beavers, dik-diks, coyotes, elephant shrews, and geese. Some animals mate for a season; most animals mate and move on.

I stuck to mammals for this example because the lower forms of life—while natural—are positively inhuman. You could say, for example, that the praying mantis "mates for life" only because, while the male shudders in orgasm, the female bites his head off. Then she eats him. The male praying mantis is an animal that comes and goes at the same time. Maybe that's why he's always praying. We all know how the black widow spider becomes a widow and why there is no such thing as a black widower (some animals get so hungry after sex).

From a purely human point of view, homosexual behavior has been recorded in every culture that kept detailed enough records. Sociologists and anthropologists have documented homosexual behavior in every country on earth—including in tribes that had no contact with outside human beings until the arrival of the anthropologists. Any behavior observed among all races, all peoples, all cultures, and in all countries throughout all recorded time must certainly be considered natural for humans.

re gays and kids:

Same-sex couples aren't the optimum environment in which to raise children. That's an interesting one, in light of who society does allow to get married and bring children into their marriage. Check it out: murderers, convicted felons of all sorts, even known child molesters are all allowed to freely marry and procreate, and do so every day, with hardly a second thought, much less a protest, by these same critics. So if children are truly the priority here, why is this allowed? The fact is that many gay couples raise children, adopted and occasionally their own from failed attempts at heterosexual marriages. Lots and lots of scientific studies have shown that the outcomes of the children raised in the homes of gay and lesbian couples are just as good as those of straight couples. The differences have been shown again and again to be insignificant. Psychologists tell us that what makes the difference is the love and commitment of the parents, not their gender. The studies are very clear about that. And gay people are as capable of loving children as fully as anyone else.

Answer 5

It's not a choice. I think what you're trying to say is that even though we're gay we should be "straight" and live our lives "normal" Well trust me, those kind of relationships never go anywhere good. I am not going to put myself into a relationship I'm not fully committed to, that would only hurt someone else. No one is telling you that you can't be with the one you love, so why are you telling us who we can and can't love? I don't care what you do in your privacy, and what I do behind closed doors should not affect you in any way. Me or anyone else being gay causes you absolutely no harm, except that you spend way too much time worrying about what we're doing. So back to what I was saying...would you rather a gay person get into a straight relationship which would end up causing grief for both people? You are such a hypocrite.

Answer 6

Since this isn't really a question, but clearly a religious-right anti-gay speech, I will ask you a question instead.

How does it matter to you if being gay is a choice or not?
Seriously, what real difference does it make in your life?

I see four possibilities available:

Let's suppose being gay IS a choice, and that God exists. As you say, God gave man free will, which includes the ability to choose to be gay. While this is certainly against some people's interpretations of God's word, the matter is between the gay person and his/her maker, and none of your business.

Now let's suppose that being gay IS a choice, but God does NOT exist. Again, man has free will and will do as he pleases. This includes the choice to be gay, but in the absence of God, there are no post-mortem consequences to this choice.

In both of the choice cases, free will works in your favor. While you might use your free will to define choosing to be gay as wrong or a bad choice, not everyone believes as you do. But, it also means that your kids, if you have raised them "right", will be able to withstand their exposure to gay people without turning gay, thanks again to THEIR free will.

Now let's suppose being gay is NOT a choice, and God exists. That means God makes gay people gay and has a purpose for them, or God is a cruel guy who has purposely made some people who cannot enter heaven. In the former case, you are doing yourself, the gay person, and God a disservice by shunning the gay person, since he is one of God's creations, and God does not make mistakes. In the latter... well, let's just hope the vengeful God scenario isn't true, for all our sakes.

And now, let's suppose it is NOT a choice, and God does NOT exist. That makes being gay either a natural biological function that science has yet to explain, or some sort of a birth defect, depending on your point of view. In the former case, researchers are hard at work trying to isolate the gay gene... so stay tuned. In the latter case, well, the APA removed homosexuality from the list of mental disorders back in the 1970s, so it's long past time to update your thinking.

No matter which case above is true, being gay is legal in our country, and causes harm to no one. So it doesn't matter (at least it shouldn't) in any substantial, tangible way to straight people that gay people share the planet with them.

One more note: your attempt to conflate homosexuality with pedophilia has been scientifically disproven time and time again. Continuing to believe and spread this lie in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary is called willful ignorance, and THAT is a choice.

I hope you will learn to control such irresponsible behavior in the future, rather than try to pass this lie on to your children. That would be wrong. And like you, I certainly don't want my child around anyone who cannot discern right from wrong.

And I hope this answer is both complete enough and adult enough for you, and causes you to pause and re-examine your views. That would be what an adult would do in this situation.

Answer 7

Judging by the fact that there is biological evidence that homosexuality is a heritable trait, I would say it is not a choice. When I see a male dog hump a male dog, I feel safely assured that it is based upon instinct, not choice. Whatever a persons' reasons for hetero/homosexuality, I accept it for what they are. I have no problem with homosexuals adopting children, or being around children for that matter. Homosexual parents do not create homosexual children. If a person cannot accept another for their given sexuality, the unaccepting person isn't seeing the person for who they are, and what they bring to this world. In other words, to not accept a homosexual person for who they are, means to be missing out on what a fairly large number of people have to offer.

Answer 8

Human sexuality is MOSTLY determined by instinct, chemical attraction, and biological urges. It works the same for all sexual orientations.

I have never met a heterosexual who can tell me when they decided to be straight... or what they were before that decision.

People of all sexual orientations have boundary issues. Some people have better control than others.

It doesn't make people animals to understand their sexual orientation. It doesn't exclude from being animals because one is heterosexual.

The safety of children issue is a terrible example. Over 90% of child abuse cases are heterosexual people doing the physical abusing. A HUGE majority of all molestation cases are heterosexual men diddling little girls. 99% of all child negligence crimes are also committed by heterosexuals. 99% of child murders are by heterosexuals.

How is that you seem to think because a man wants to love and be loved by another man that children are somehow in danger?
Straight people seem to be putting children in plenty of danger without us.

Straight people are straight because that is the way they are... they have a chemical, biological, and emotional attraction to people of the opposite sex. Do they not have any control over their behavior?

Dustin Lochart

Answer 9

some of us are born gay, others choice to be gay. Don't bring animals into this cause you'll just be disappointed when I point out that there are animals that have been gay, and no they havn't died out because of it. If a gay chooses to hide from being gay they are living a lie. I can't see how this is good for the person or whom ever they end up with.

Answer 10

I think it is a choice but is also a instinct like if you are a man and are attracted to both males and females then its an instinct but you could make a choice that you don't have to be a bisexual you could be striaght and ignore the little voice in your head telling you to be urself.

Answer 11

Well if you are saying that homosexuals should not have childern because they do not choose there orintation. Then it is ok for molesters, alcoholic, drug addicts, prostitues, and pychially abusive parents to have kids because they are making a choice....Right, that only makes sense by your logic! Well good luck being a bigot and I hope that one day you will be able to open up your mind. Oh and if you didnt understand , I totally 100% disagree with you! have a nice day :)