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The biggest fallacy of all--the claim that the civilizations of ancient Egypt were black! Ancient Egyptians were the forebears of modern Egyptians--an Arabic people. Yes, the Egyptians were African--they lived on the continent of Africa--but they were NOT black!
The Egyptians were in contact with a black people to the south of their realm--the Nubians, and made clear they were not OF these people, but were an entirely seperate people. The civilization of Egypt in totality has been 'stolen' by Afrocentric academics.

And don't get me started with the whole Jesus issue... he wasn't black! He was a Palestinian Jew, and so looked like the modern day descendants of the early Palestinians... olive complexion, dark to black hair, probably a heavy beard in the fashion of the day... in other words, a guy that could pass for Sicilian or Greek!
He wasn't a 'white guy' either--but then, no one but the nuttiest Christian really thinks he was a pale-skinned chap with straight, light brown hair!

2006-07-26 07:34:50 · 21 answers · asked by Martin W 1 in Arts & Humanities History

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It is important to separate Afrocentrists and Eurocentrists from legitimate scholarship. Afrocentrists insist that everyone was black, and that everything black is great and that everything white is inferior. Eurocentrists insist that everyone was white, and that everything white is great and everything black is inferior. Neither group presents their argument as anything more than emotional and poorly substantiated. Both groups can be ignored. Unfortunately, Eurocentrism has become so ingrained in Anglo-American culture, that as become unquestioned and immune to intelligent criticism.
The original texts from a few hundred years ago that defined the field of Egyptology, were written during the same time as the western slave trade. It remains no secret that a primary tactic used in the marketing of American slavery, was the argument that "black people" were inferior to all other peoples on the planet. This viewpoint was supported using faux historical evidence that clearly showed black people to be eternally primitive. It was in this whirlwind of racist propaganda that we first hear talk of Egypt being not only non-African, but non-black.
Initially Egyptology's supported slavery by claiming that the Ancient Egyptians were black, but a different kind of "intelligent ***** race" that was an historical anomaly. Later the argument shifted to a new paradigm that featured Caucasian Egyptians back primarily by the theory that black people were incapable of building any sort of civilization. At this point in time, the primary agenda in all American studies of Africa was to further justify the western slave trade. Prior to this era of extreme racial persecution and enslavement of Africans, the notion that Ancient Egypt was home to non-black peoples did not exist.
The origins of the Egyptians, as the evidence dictates, was not the result of a northern Asian migration, but the result of a southern migration. The people of the norther Nile valley migrated from the drying Sahara and migrated northward to modern Egypt and Nubia. The Egyptians traced their origins to the land of Punt, which lies in the southern part of modern day Sudan. Regardless of which way it is examined, it is clear that the Egyptians and the Nubian's came from the same region of Africa originally and physically would not have been extremely different. All of the ancient sources note the differences between the two groups, but nothing that ventures beyond what we would call black people. Being lighter skinned than a Nubian in no way indicates a complete shift in racial type. Look at the figures of the American Civil Rights movement. You have people with literally black skin like Stokely Carmichael, but theen you have Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King and Malcolm X with his light skin, red hair and freckles. The contradiction lies in the assumption that any deviation from the supposed Nubian type indicates a racial shift. Any Roman source will tell you the physical differences between a Roman and a Gaul, but we don't make the assumption that one of the must be non-white.
The modern population of Egypt reflects many, many occupations, migrations and conquests. The Middle Eastern Arabs who dominate the population now did no show up in any real numbers prior to the 7th century AD. The Egypt was not heavily mixed during the thousands of years when it was the world's superpower. It was mixed, but with people who were very similar in type to themselves. After it's fall, it became extremely mixed as a result of people migrating and conquering from all over the world.
For the Egyptians to have been non-black a few scientific firsts would have had to occurred. One, an indigenous population would have to go from being extremely black, the Nubian's, to a completely different racial type in the absence of significant climatic change or the presence of a massive foreign settlement. Two, all of the eye witness accounts, archaeological evidence, and literature that spans thousands of years, would be completely wrong when it comes to the basic description of a people. Trusting early American and European Egyptology's writing during the time of slavery, over the words of people who traveled to Ancient Egypt and described what they saw before their very eyes, should be considered truly foolish.
All of the ancient sources clearly point to the Egyptians being native Africans. There are no indigenous peoples of Africa who fall out of the category of "*****." Every non-black African population and comfortably trace their origins back to a specific non-African country. If the Egyptians were native Africans, which the evidence supports, then they would have been what we call black people.

PHD in Classical and African Antiquity

2006-07-26 13:52:43 · answer #1 · answered by luxloomis2000 2 · 16 15

If Black Afro-centrist want to claim that ancient Egyptians were black, that is fine but they'll have to reconcile the whole Jewish slavery issue. LOL However there are many art works from that era that show both black and white peoples. So. if they were all black then it would be the only example of a black culture that used the loom, written language, mathematics and the wheel.

2013-11-09 03:35:17 · answer #2 · answered by ? 1 · 7 3

Nubians, also fought along side of Egypt many times, whats your point? Also many European countries, unite, or fight against each other throughout history, are they not still European. I fail to understand people using that example, that they did not come from the same lineage. No one is saying the stayed as one, but throughout their history they did act as one. And as for light skin, people being represented, of course they came across light skinned people. One, Africans come in many shades, its a misconception that you have to be black as coal to be African, or black for that matter. Two, There were many slaves, and migrating people from Northern areas that populated Egypt, but by today standards the main people would still be considered Nubian, African predominately. Just like Italians, Greeks, Persians, who clearly have color would be still considered Eurasian.

2014-03-26 20:20:21 · answer #3 · answered by Terrance D 1 · 1 0

And the Nubians were good neighbors,too LOL ! the Eygptians before Joseph took a trip there built a army to defend against nubian invasion repeatedly.

2006-07-26 07:54:53 · answer #4 · answered by K9 4 · 6 0

I dispute the best answer new DNA evidence shows that the egyptian were near easterners. 1500 BC the same time the egyptians conquered nubia there was a MASSIVE migration of near eastern/ semitic into east africa. Were did this sudden influx of near easterners come from if not egypt who were at the height of their power and influence.
http://www.nature.com/news/first-ancient-african-genome-reveals-vast-eurasian-migration-1.18531
http://www.voanews.com/content/ancient-african-dna-shows-mass-migration-back-into-africa/2997519.html
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/350/6262/820

2016-01-07 10:30:38 · answer #5 · answered by Enkidu 2 · 0 1

The top poster "loomix" is subtlety putting his/her Afrocentrist, or rather Negroidcentrist spin on their answer. It is just such a practiced essay that he/she prompts you and disarms you at first to mask the agenda.

Before "Africa" it was Libya. Libya was made up of Eurasians. Strabo, a Greek created the idea of continents and named Libya, Africa. The continental boundary was the Nile River. The Nile separated Libya and Asia. In fact, Cairo, a border town of the two land nations. There is a Greek map known as "the known occupied land areas" that shows Southern Europa, Libya, and West Asia as the known world. Anything below the Saharan desert was not discovered, no one crossed it. It was a death by nothingness. Most of Egypt was made up of Caucasoid Eurasians. "Blacks" aka African Americans, were isolated in tribal Regions in Sub Sahara Congoloids areas. Most West Nile Africans never stepped foot in Egypt to this day. African Americans just use this theory as emotional fast food.

2014-09-05 15:28:46 · answer #6 · answered by HigherValue 2 · 4 4

MARTIN W WHERE IN THE HELL YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION FROM?I DONT CARE FOR AFROCENTRIST OR ANYONE WHO IS A CENTRIST THE NUBIANS THE KUSH INVADED EGYPT RULED FOR YEARS READ A WESTERN CIVILIZATION BOOK FROM UC BERKELEY AND HOW FAR YOU GOING BACK TO THE HISTORY OF EGYPT ?

2014-03-10 19:54:39 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

Several dynasties originated in Nubia, near the current Aswan Dam, and those ruling families were black, although probably not Bantu, that is, West African in origin.

Furthermore, until about 6000 years ago, much more of the sahara was habitable, many believe that when the climate changed, many denizens of the sahara moved to the Nile river area, including many blacks.

2006-07-26 10:51:25 · answer #8 · answered by edward d 1 · 8 4

Because they need something.

The Copts are the modern descendants of the ancient Egyptians, not the Arabs. They invaded and conquered a Christian Egypt and forced Islam [as usual] in the 7th century. The 'Book of gates' is an ancient document that clearly shows the Egyptians thought of themselves as distinct from sub-Saharan Africans, whom they believed were created by a sinful act of masturbation [chapter 7].

Portrayals of Christ are of course not understood as the way He looked. Only a very shallow person would project his own stupidity onto others by imputing such a weird opinion to them.

2006-07-26 07:45:03 · answer #9 · answered by wehwalt 3 · 5 8

Because they were Africa is aAfrica , just because its a different part doesn't mean the the people skin is whiter, and also the arab there today don't even treat like there people made it.

2015-02-17 08:25:41 · answer #10 · answered by domilama 2 · 3 1

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