"disability"?

Question

I had seen many real disable people while attending university, blind, with all kind of paralises, with no arm(s), leg(s), etc. Yet such people had a drive to learn and succeed, those were people with REAL DISABILITIES. They could not help how they were born or what really happen to them and their health.
But, there is no excuse for people who truly don't take care themselves or don't seek the help or are out of control, have behavir problems and call it disability.
Will we call next "can't take authority figure, therefor can't work and will stay home and get fat" disability as well?
I work every day with substance abuse people, and believe me they can be very smart and manipulative just to get SSI/D.

would you pay SSI/D to substance abuse immigrants?

Answer 1

Is this a question or just a rant?

Answer 2

is there a question here?
Don't fool yourself, some of the most "disabled" have hidden disabilities. Not asking for help is a major "disability." Not having "drive" in today's society is a major major disability. Substance abuse and the manipulations to get this substance describes many "lost souls." If that isn't a disability, what is? Ask yourself, would you rather live in substandard housing on peanuts, loaded all the time, or have a good life? It's a no brainer. It is easy to pass judgment on others, difficult to try to understand.

Answer 3

Having a substance abuse problem is an illness and IS a disability. They could die from it, have brain damage, become comatose, any number of things that could make them totally disabled. Yes they are very smart and manipulative, most people on drugs are close to genius. Some of the most famous people were heroin addicts or smoked pot. You work with these people as I do so you should know what the results of their illness can be.

Answer 4

"Robert R" is exactly right. They always say "look at the empirical evidence." I'm smart (high IQ,) good looking (I'd post a picture if I didn't value my last semblance of pride,) and very funny - seemingly all of the ingredients for success. WHY then would I CHOOSE to live the "life" I'm currently living? I've lost everything, including my physical health. The only reasonable assumption is that I'm mentally ill, even though I appear to be as far away from it as you can get. When they say addiction is a choice (especially alcohol) I say no sane person would make that choice.

Answer 5

Ah, yes, the joys of a politically correct society where people will deliberately hurt the feelings of others who don't deserve it, and yet will pat the heads of those who DO deserve it. We mustn't make them feel bad, it will lower their self-esteem. Like pediatricians who refuse to tell kids and their parents that the child is fat and will instead talk about nutrition. Let's call a spade a spade, shall we?

I'm fat. I know I need to change my diet and get more exercise and I know that a lot of what I am fighting is genetic. I'm working at it, though, I'm not laying on the couch and blaming it on others.

I think we need to reorganize our priorities and learn the difference between politically correct and helpful interference.

Answer 6

If this is truly the way you feel, you need to find a different job. I am not trying to be rude or funny. If you are carrying this around with you every day, it can not be good for you. There are jobs where you can help people and feel good about yourself and what you are doing. You might try working with the children of these people. As you already know, they really need your help.

Answer 7

You have not studied psychology at all, have you.

OCD can be a disability. If it is severe, like in my case, then it can truly interfere with one's ability to work. Not everyone with OCD will have it to such a debilitating degree that it causes them to not be able to work- but in my case, and in some others, it happens.

Yes, people who are paralyzed have disabilities. But those are not the ONLY people who have disabilities! Stop being so narrow minded already!

I was born with OCD, too. It is a genetic illness. It runs in my family. I have struggled to get well, by taking proper medications, educating myself about the illness, seeing doctors, going to therapy, praying, etc. I really WANT to be well. But to be honest, and you must understand this, I do not think that I will ever reach a point in my life when I no longer have OCD at all. I can see some drastic improvement- but unless God chooses to completely heal me of OCD, or some other miracle occurs, I will always suffer from OCD. I am not a victim. I am well enough to be attending school (which I currently am), and I intend to start working as soon as I graduate, as well. I was not able to work for approximately the past ten years, because the OCD was so severe. But I have worked hard to make myself as well as possible, and I can again return to working society. I truly want to work. I don't want to stay on SSDI forever.

Like I said in your last question- there are some people who intentionally violate the system and cheat. Some people fake illnesses. But you have to understand something- you are only seeing a small portion of the whole. Not everyone fakes having a disability in order to collect SSDI insurance. You just happen to work in an environment where you are seeing the asses of society- you have to understand this.

It's just like a Cop and his or her job. A Cop sees all the bad, wicked, selfish, lying, lazy, scum of the earth every single day on the job. But just because a Police officer sees all the asses of society does not mean (and this is important for you to grasp) that everyone ELSE is just like those criminal elements. Do you see my point? You can't stereotype or judge everyone who receives SSDI as being criminals or lazy. How would you like it if I said that all women are Gold-Digging Harpies? Or, what if I assumed that all Muslims are terrorists? That is just as wrong as you assuming that all people who receive SSDI are manipulators, who are cheating the system.

Don't ever assume. When you assume, you make an "@ss" out of U and me. A-S-S-U-M-E.

And, like you said, there are really people who have obvious disabilities, like the lack of the ability to see, or walk, etc. But then, there are some people who may have a different sort of disabling illness, that is not so easy for a layperson to recognize. It may be depression, or schizo-affective disorder, or PTSD. I know that there are those who can slip through the cracks, but the government forces anyone who applies for SSDI to see one of THEIR doctors first. That is precisely what happened in my case. They are very careful in allowing recipients to collect SSDI. In fact, most people are turned down for SSDI- especially the first time. And do you realize that many of those people desperately need the money to feed themselves and their families?

You chose to work with substance abuse people. Hey, if you don't like it, then quit! Go into some other line of work. But don't just generalize and put everyone into one convenient category. Human beings are far too complicated to do that.

You can't understand someone else until you have walked around in their shoes for a while. God forbid you become disabled, and have to see how hard it is to actually get SSDI. I hope that never happens to you.

Answer 8

Not everyone can fit into society's little box of how people should be/ live. There are billions of people on the planet. Do you really think that everyone is cut out to survive in today's society?

Answer 9

You have a good point there. But, I'm wondering if you're in the right work field. You must suspend judging people. It will start to affect your outlook on life.

Answer 10

yeah isnt it fabulous that tax money goes towards their ridiculous lifestyles?

i used to work with disabled people in a group home...and even THOSE people worked during the day. some of them were blind and they still worked....some of them deaf..some were in wheelchairs and would never get out of them

i guess some people are lazy...so they go on disability