Tell me about myself and prove horoscopes aren't rubbish?

Question

I was attacked here the other day by mercyandvengence when I said horoscopes were rubbish (her exact statement was "Tell GLH to piss off! If you think astrology is stupid, why the **** are you in the category? Take your retarded, arrogant *** someplace else. God damned brits, geesh!"). I *was* being rather provocative but I didn't expect to be abused in return, so...

Here's a challenge... I give my exact time and place of birth and someone tells me as much as they can about me that they can't work out from my profile or the questions I've asked and answered on here. 10 points to the person who gets closest and if you're really close I'll unreservedly retract my statement about horoscopes being rubbish.

I was born 8th October 1958 in Walthamstow, North East London at 5.31am

OK... hit me with your best shot and I'll give you a totally honest appraisal of your answers [and don't bother with the "you asked this question because you're Libran and in favour of balance and fairness")

I'm scoring the sensible answers with a point for each description that IS me and a point for each that ISN'T and will give the answer as a percentage correct.

carin: 51%
gonzo: 25%
rania: 46%
tnkumar: 43%
pent-up: 56% (some things you said were VERY good but others missed by a mile)
funandfaithful: 25% (and that's being generous)
mylittlepony - not even close! try again!!

mercy - a big kiss back (hey is that my charm that everyone says I have?)

By the way... couple of clues... I HATE the Arts and flashy clothes, I regard most luxuries as a waste of money.

Any others want a try?

Observations so far:
* If you all have the same information to start with, how can you all get such different results? In fact the things that you are most consistent about are the things you got wrong!!
* So far even the best has only got slightly more things correct as incorrect
(I am honestly trying to be as analytical as I can on this - my background is science and I'm trying to be scientific here, although it's very difficult with descriptive terms)

Suggestion... there were two major events that shaped my life, one when I was age about 6 and the other in my early 20's that no-one has even hinted at yet. Now that I've told you what to look for can anyone even get close?

And I hate the Beatles (and Harry Hill - but I do think Eddie Izzard is very funny) and I don't live in N E London any more

UPDATE:
starsoul you score 57% but you haven't given as much detail. The event in my 20's was when I was 23. What about when I was 6?

milly: 53% (I had to ignore large chunks as applicable to just about anyone - I certainly didn't recognise myself!)

Well folks there have been about 9 more-or-less serious attempts to tell me about myself and none of them have done very well. There certainly doesn't seem to be enough detail about my past for me to put any reliance on your advice for the future and a lot of what has been said has been in very general terms with about as much wrong as right. None of the major events in my life have been picked out:-
The death of my father when I was 6
My subsequent isolation from my mother as she devoted her time to my younger sister
My unhappy childhood in a violent environment at school and use of education to escape
My depression and attempted suicide at age 23 followed in the same year by meeting my wife and getting a job after a year unemployed
My preference to teach myself and learn by my mistakes
If any of that was in there then it was too hidden to be of any use.
Verdict: Horoscopes are indeed rubbish!

Answer 1

FIRST- let me SWEAR I didn't look at any of your info before I got this birthchart. I am going on my own knowledge, the birth chart's pinfo that it gave me and the websites. Tell me how accurate I
am.

Well, you are a Libra with Libra rising- and truly, obviously you have an open mind- You love to look at both sides of any conundrum or theory because you love intellectual persuit. Keywords: Tactful, Serene, Likes clothes, Loves sweets, Appreciates books, Avoids conflict
A Libra Ascendant indicates those with energetic, success-oriented personalities. In one way or another they are dedicated to putting their best foot forward. They are apt to be so charming and unfailingly polite, others may sometimes view them as being insincere. However, this is not necessarily the case. It is how they genuinely feel most comfortable and are able to function successfully, rather than a misguided need to hide behind false manners and charming smiles.
Libra Rising implies a distinct mental orientation. Their expressions and mannerisms can make them appear scholarly, even if they aren't particularly learned. They are apt to be fond of books, music, or art. Though they may seem emotionally detached, their disposition is friendly and eagerly cooperative. However, should something in their physical or mental environment be off balance, they can become cross, demanding, and even tyrannical, until they manage once again to gain their personal equilibrium.
Libra is ruled by Venus, planet of sensuality and beauty, and as a result many of these individuals are fortunate enough to be physically attractive. Even if they are not thought of as being physically beautiful their charming personality will enhance their actual appearance. They are fond of personal luxuries, physical comfort, dressing well, and enhancing their appearance with cosmetics and other beauty aids. Venus is the planet of romance and sociability, and with respect to these areas, they are likely to be favored. They are romantic, charming, and gracious. They may have a strong spirit of cooperation and diplomacy, but not all of them possess the Libra ability for strategic planning and organization. The negative potential includes the possibility of individuals who are shy, rude or antisocial. It also can mean individuals with either total disregard for their appearance, or the reverse, a vain obsession with retaining youth and beauty at all costs.
They are likely to be artistically or musically skilled. Interior design, architecture and the law are other areas in which they have particular interest. These individuals are often as good at taking photographs as they are at posing for them. Common physical complaints are apt to be lack of energy, and digestive tract ailments that may be a result from addiction to rich foods, particularly sweets.



Your moon is in Leo, meaning you are warm and giving, as well as magnetic and proud of your accomplishments but as a teenager you were likely the sort who got into 'adventures' and were dareing. The Leo Moon is an intelligent and strongly emotional Moon. This Moon marches to the beat of its own drummer and relishes being the center of attention. The Leo Moon is an exceedingly charming Moon with an exceptional sense of humor. It is a leader, not a follower. However, this Moon possesses a dramatic flair and tends to take itself too seriously. The Leo Moon is not by nature a self-sacrificing Moon. In general, the personality of those whose Moon sign is in Leo will be strong, proud and courageous by nature, exuding energy and drive. Such individuals relish responsibility and may be prone to take on too much. There is a natural attraction to authority here, coupled with enjoyment of being in the public eye. Persons governed by the Moon in Leo would much rather lead than follow and inherent pride makes them most susceptible to love affairs. The opposite sex finds this individual extremely interesting because of the frequency and sincerity of such affairs. The actions of those ruled by the Leo Moon attract the attention and respect of superiors within the workplace, which can mean only good things as far as any career is concerned. Such individuals are usually encouraging souls, optimistic and generous with money...sometimes a little too much so, which also applies to the display of affection. Nothing is ever done in half-measures by Leo Moon people and they are prone to set high standards, both on a personal level and for others. Anyone with the Moon in Leo will possess a strong intellect and an extreme love of the arts. Occupations are often associated with the theater, music, painting or literature. There is also a devout love of luxury and a grandiose sense of style. Lively in spirit with a desire to make a statement and a definite distaste for being ignored, the individual governed by a Leo Moon has high intelligence and excellent prioritizing skills. The Libra Sun/Leo Moon combination produces a very romantic personality. These natives may even make a career of love affairs and no matter how dull the remainder of their lives might be, they will never find matters of the heart to be routine or boring. While these are refined, devoted and discreet individuals, a wild love affair is well within their capacity. Here, the ideals are basically guiding stars and this Sun/Moon mix will adhere to those ideals no matter what, pursuing goals with an abundance of enthusiasm and dedication. There is a streak of pride inherent in the nature of this combination that can prove to be a restriction from ever stepping below the natural position or station in life. In certain ways, the Libra Sun/Leo Moon blend can result in a passive nature when it comes to ambition. In the arenas of career or professional life, for example, these natives frequently seem to be held in low gear by a force working like the law of intertia. In addition, since both Libra and Leo are Signs of pleasantry, sociability and love of luxury, these traits may lessen motivation and increase complacency. These are souls who, as a general rule, like other people and greatly enjoy the company of friends, family and even casual acquaintances. When crossed or taken advantage of, these natives seemingly fail to understand exactly what happened and are usually rather bewildered by the whole issue.



Your murcury is in Libra, like my husbands'. This means you don't pass judgement quickly. You tend to 'weigh-up' your options before deciding on things.

Your Venus is also in Libra, so you are attracted to very traditionally beautiful and mostly classy and demure ladies who can excite you by the gift of gab- long talks and good convo. Loves intellegent or independant ladies, but in traditionally feminine roles.

Your Mars is in Gemini, Your temper can be a long time coming, but other times you can anger quick and not let it show- you would usually settle for a verbal tounge lashing to punish your foes and those who oppose you. You enjoy a good debate, but don't like to be the loser of such debates. Sometimes your personality can seem extreamly dual- and to take your mind off stress, you need to absorb facts and may read to relax. When you are in an argument, your main offence is to present facts to sway your case. Mostly, you avoid conflict, but love a contest- particularly those of wits and words. Winning anything and your acheivments give you great pride.

Those are all the personality planets...

Sun in I

Forceful personality. He is strong-willed, authoritarian. He is self-confident but is sometimes arrogant. Has a happy childhood. His desire for self-development leads to success and he has a good professional job.

Moon in X

Changes of situation. He is frightened of getting old and tends to hark back to the past. Influenced by the father. Success due to help from women.

Mercury in I

Lively, alert, penetrating and ingenious mind. He expresses himself easily, is a born orator. He always looks on the bright side. Very adaptable.

Venus in XII

He is devoted to sick or impoverished people. Can be in the medical or social professions. He likes animals, tranquility, peace and solitude. He has secret love affairs. Strong will to marry, will have ease finding many love affairs with those who will usually wind up falling for him.

Mars in IX

Deeply rooted opinions, which he knows how to defend energetically. At a certain moment of life, he can fight for a particular ideal but might abandon it along the way, being less convinced than at the beginning of its virtue or because he realizes that it is a losing battle. Conflict abroad or with foreigners.

Jupiter in II

Easygoing over money matters, no credit problems, increases his inheritance. He earns good money, without too much effort. He enjoys what he has.

Saturn in III

His studies will be restricted. He is serious, discrete. He takes on mental tasks that require time and concentration. He travels little even though he likes it. He has few friends, who are, however, very close.

Uranus in XI

His freedom is important to him, even with regard to friends. These are extravagant, original, intellectual. They are not from the same background and have a different up-bringing.

Neptune in II

He develops his "brilliant" but questionable ideas to earn money.

The houses in the signs


House II in Scorpio

Financial success will come either through a job connected with death, (funeral director, forensic surgeon, monumental mason etc...) or thanks to an inheritance. Sex is important to him- in a relationship or as a part of his lover's worth.

House III in Sagittarius

He will study for a long time, will be erudite. Very intelligent, an open and independent spirit, will have a connection with foreign countries. Fertile intelligence.

House IV in Capricorn

After working all his life to obtain his objectives and finally having reached that goal, he wants to retire in peace and quiet and to have a retirement full of contemplation, with few tasks, close to nature. As he was very careful with money all his life, he will administer the properties he has acquired.

House V in Aquarius

Doesn't like routine and the banal. He is romantic, full of fantasy and imagination. He is also a friend one can count on. Appreciates friends and family, but will not tolerate a 'bad seed' amongst his circle of friends. All must be people he can count on and feels comfortable around.

House VI in Pisces

Job in commerce. Weak point: the kidneys and bowels.

House VII in Aries

Love-at-first-sight, jumps in to relationships.

House VIII in Taurus

Happy old age, natural death. Inheritance.

House IX in Gemini

Likes studying, is open to anything new, accepts and recognizes his errors, always develops in a positive sense. Likes travel, discovery, meeting new people and knows how to appreciate them.

House X in Cancer

Likes contact with the public, the crowd. Profession that involves meeting a lot of people. Professional success thanks to sense of duty and application to his work.

House XI in Leo

Friends are not always chosen by chance. Even if the feelings of friendship are sincere, these friends must automatically bring something - professional help for example.

House XII in Virgo

Work in a research lab. Prudent about love because he has made mistakes before, been taken advantage of.

Interplanetary aspects

The interplanetary aspects have a strong influence on the character and disposition of the individual and, consequently, on his destiny.

The conjunction aspect is variable and depends above all on the nature of the conjoint planets.

390 Conjunction Venus - Ascendant

He likes everything beautiful, the Arts, balance and harmony. He is amiable and sociable. He likes entertainment and has a loving nature. This is a very strong placement indicating a good understanding of feminine nature, charm and a strong 'feminine' side.

287 Conjunction Sun - Mercury

He is intelligent and knows what he wants. Is a good organizer, he likes moving, travel. He likes literature. This is a placement that adds a lot of intellect. He is always thinking about something.

215 Conjunction Jupiter - Neptune

He is very generous and altruistic, helping people in difficulty or sick people. He knows how to listen or, at least, how to give that impression. He is a dreamer, with lots of imagination: he likes the Arts.

189 Conjunction Moon - Uranus

He is imaginative and has the Moon's intuition complemented by Uranus' independence and originality. His life is out-of-the-ordinary, with lots of changes and a great knowledge of the world not through reading but through personal experience. He likes the sensational, new things. He acts instinctively, but fortunately has a good sixth sense. He likes to be surrounded by original people, artists.

117 Trine Venus - Mars

He is amorous, not a peaceful and calm lover but a passionate one with a strong temperament. He is demonstrative in love, and likes healthy pleasures. He enjoys life to the full. Loves Sex.

115 Sextile Mercury - Uranus

He is perspicacious, ingenious: he binds intelligence and originality together with genius. He likes literature, especially fiction. He is spontaneous in his friendships and knows how to take advantage of the situations that arise.

68 Sextile Sun - Uranus

He is above all independent and original. He likes change, reforms, he is allergic to everything routine. He has a strong personality, and has many friends.

63 Conjunction Sun - Venus

He is gay, sociable, welcoming. He is a lover, and has many affairs: he is seduced by beauty and charm. He likes the Arts and social life.

-60 Square Mars - Pluto

He is violent, brutal, irascible and succeeds in crushing others, without giving it a thought. This can be done through his verbal abilities, but mostly he holds back his sharp tounge, and even those critical faults he tends to pick up in others, he is hesitant to use it against those who have not crossed him severely. He can be crude at times.

-58 Square Venus - Midheaven

He is vain and jealous. Both married life and professional life are difficult with such a character. Can be arrogant.

54 Sextile Neptune - Pluto

39 Conjunction Sun - Ascendant

38 Sextile Jupiter - Pluto

He likes to direct, is intelligent and is an organizer of the first order.

36 Trine Jupiter - Midheaven

He is a high liver, likes to have fun but knows what he wants and does whatever necessary to get it. He wants to - and does - succeed socially. After a hard day's work, a good well-lubricated meal in the company of friends is just the ticket.

31 Sextile Sun - Moon

He has lots of vitality. He likes public life, he is popular and his company is appreciated. He is balanced, at ease with himself and gets on very well with his parents.

31 Trine Mars - Ascendant

-23 Square Moon - Jupiter

He likes to gamble, be it intellectually or in reality on the card tables. He is quite lucky and generous with any money he has, especially that which he doesn't have to work for. He loves a home or environment that is pleasing to the eye. He is bold in conversations and when it comes to taking a chance.

17 Trine Saturn - Uranus

He knows how to be on top of the situation. He perseveres, is determined but ingenious and original. He is very practical. He proceeds slowly, but is always bound to achieve his objectives in the end, after judging all his options.

Answer 2

You are a man born in North East London at 5.31 am and at the time of birth, you were ignorant of astrology and other science. You are a man always curious and has had a number of girl friends. You mother was very kind to you and you did well in the field of education but not extraordinary. As per your horoscope you are married once but has two wives. You are blessed with children. You are oriented towards accounts and related fields and very considerative with fellow human beings. You will enjoy a healthy life and live your full life (at least 89 years of age). You have to be careful about a tragedy which may strike within two years time and it may be related to your near and dear ones. You will have enough money to life a comfortable life and but
lot of misunderstandings with your close people. Even though you try to help people but they somehow mistake you and it will backfire. Some thing very good must have happened or will happen because of your children and you are fond of travelling.
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Answer 3

Okay you are 48 yrs old, you was born in North East London sometime in the morning. You was recently verbally abused by someone that actually hurt your feelings in some kinda way..

Okay the real thing i might see you have been married twice first one was not a good thing. you have 2 or 3 children that you dearly love who always ask for your support and of course being the great person you are you always give them what they want and what they need, you are some type of business owner that has struggled through the past 2 yrs (about)

And if I am close damn I'm good at the guessing game :~) lol.. sorry best wishes and good luck~

Answer 4

You were born. You liked the Beatles very much but now you have to be in the mood to hear them. You enjoy Monty Python, especially the PepperPots. You hate being abused. You're forty-eight years old and you'll be forty-nine years of age exactly three weeks and two days before All Hallow's Eve, which is possibly one of your favourite holidays.

You despise Craig David. You enjoy Harry Hill, but you can take or leave Eddie Izzard. You wish Tony Blair would just go ahead and marry George Bush and they'd both run off to Barbados and open a shop which grooms gay miniature poodles.

You like to get really P!ssed on Friday night, but you do not like Guinness. The first time you got drunk you vomited in bushes near a church. You wish Ozzie would get back with Sabbath and just shut the *&#@ up.

Now for your horoscope. You wish you had more money but you're not rich. You either wish you had a significant other or your significant other treated you better or you wish she'd just quit nagging and whining and being so hard on you.

Something...something...something is not perfect in your love life. Or maybe it's in hers. Or something. You should travel today but you should be careful or stay home. The sun will go down about dark. Widely scattered daylight towards morning. Oh, I forgot, you're in bloody North East London. Widely scattered rain and fog towards morning. And those great, huge, ugly red buses. And, like one out of every twelve people, today your rich uncle Tim from Cambridge will pass on and leave you eighteen thousand, nine-hundred-and-forty-eight pounds and tuppence, nearly all of which will go to the barrister and the Queen, bloody greedy bastards!

The Great Criswell
Star Plotters To The Stars
and
Part-Time Chimney Sweep (Ret.)

Answer 5

The only reason why she believes, is because some things that was said was true to her, and it must of happened many times. But what you should tell her, is that even though it may be true, it is not all true because you must admit there have been times it has gave a wrong prediction. And you got to tell her, do you want to let horoscope control your life, or do you want to make it on your own? .. Why allow something to control you, then what are you living for?... somebody, or yourself? ... Why do you have to proof the horoscope is right, what if it says you going to have a bad day.. are you going to listen to it. Tell her, she is being a slave... and she should control her own life. Also, horoscope isnt an information coming from God it comes from the demons and satan. Because God gave everybody freewill.. therefore, he dont control you, he let you make the decision. Satan and God is enemy. He does everything opposite to God.

Answer 6

Its reall actually if u look in the stars really arefully u might find one of the signs. Im a Virgo, aug 24- sept 23, virgos go nice with every one especially libras. Boys are easy to get for girls. Beyonce is a Virgo. Virgos are sweet and nice and care about there families. Friends might be shocked that we have some things that are very personal. Well i kno more but my hands are tired of writing

Answer 7

Dear friend,

from your chart I can tell that you are a tough cooky, but your kind of power is the "defensive" or initially non violent one! You impose yourself by not acutely imposing your self, by keeping the balancie, suspending violence and dominating in the long run!

And this I tell because you have the exact Mohanda Gandhi's Sun - Moon - Ascendant combination (your Sun is in Libra, your Moon is in Leo, your Ascendant is in Libra, exactly as in Ghandi's case. Quite rare, as it is only one propability out of 1728 for one to have the exact triad combination of a celebrity.

Also, Oscar Wilde and Margaret Thatcher share your Sun - Moon combination.

Where you ever particularly interested in these people? Do you share with them any kind of traits, philosophies, life experiences?

According to your chart, when you were around 20 years old you propably entered in a particularly debilitating phase of your life, and not just physically but psychologically as well. You came across some unusual and extremely pressing and upsetting conditions (propably stemming out of a woman figure or having to do with sex, death and the paranormal).

At your service

Starsoul3

Answer 8

Listen bro. there are more goofs,kooks,and blubbering idiots here than on a city bus going downtown.i dont buy the whole whats your sign crap either,honestly it turns my stomach.and trust me when i tell you that those people have more issues than a superman comic,not just moon phases or drinking goats blood.its just that some in this world have the urge to belong to something,grow magic wands,and sacrifice their 1st born,howl at the moon etc.heres one for ya why are the horoscopes always in or close to the funny pages?hmmmmm.i know i cant answer it either.."Taurus born in 1775,im like 300 an sumthin but im still alive,i use to hang with the original billy tha kid,ya probably think im only playin but i did.my daddy's were a two headed freak show,mamma a fortune tella azmrella zella,anyway they had sex on a Ouija board,and i was born tha next day.Violent J."

Answer 9

AHHHHHHH Poor baby!
Did that make you feel better; to get it off your chest?
It's OK, don't cry baby!
If you stop being such an arrogant British piece of crap, big bad mercy will stop being so mean to you, poor baby.
BTW, asking this question is a good start. I can't believe you actually had the nerve. Big Kiss right back at ya!

Answer 10

Birthcharts are only good for your base personality. The way you grew up and your life experinces also affects how you are, so with all those birthcharts up there ^ , take into account your life and how you react to things.

Answer 11

If you want a full and accurate Natal chart reading including planets in signs, planets in houses, your Asc and MC signs, and all interplanetary aspects between planets, luminaries (Sun & Moon) and points go here:

http://www.astro.com

Input your date, place and exact birth time under "My Astro", select "Free Horoscopes" and then select "Astro Click Portrait".

Good luck!