Is it just me or does this just not make sense?

Question

We have a president that refuses to allow scientist use embryo's for stem cell research because morally he believes it is wrong, but it is perfectly ok to allow troops to get killed every day in Iraq. I am sorry but to me THAT seems a bit immoral especially since we can't even see a light at the end of this nightmare of a war tunnel.

Answer 1

right on same reasoning can be applied to his stance on abortion dont kill an unborn child but iraqi babies and children are fair game what a hypocrite

Answer 2

YOU havent seen the light at the end of the tunnel because you get all your information from one source, all of which includes anything but what you're not willing to pay to hear, which is only bad news on the war.

News companies get MONEY from the news they report, they have to SELL it to you, they dont get warm fuzzy feelings for educating the masses on the wide picture. Sex, violence, hatred, and liberal progress is what sells, good, pure, and generally whole truths do not.

I have friends and family who have been over there in Iraq clear through, and all of them can tell you how much better off the people are, and how the news is full of bullshit because the people ARE liberated, and progress IS made.

As far as stem cell research goes it should say something to you that the companies' private investers dont want to risk money on a science that has NO PROMISING leads. They have found that adult stem cells, and those from the full term cords of babies yield far more testing material and promising prospects. They have made HUGE strides with those studies, and practically NOTHING from embryonic studies.

Also, you should educate yourself enough to know that bush didnt make it illegal to do the research, he made it so federal funds (my tax dollars) will not be used for it.

Answer 3

This is what this is all about. The President is saying that you cannot start a life and then end it a couple weeks later just because you want its stem cells. and I'm sorry but I do agree with him on this one, because it is abortion. It's the same thing as, if you walked up to someboby, put a gun to their head, and pulled the trigger. All because you wanted something they had. And they don't have a choice in the matter.

Now our Military one the other hand, It is All Volunteer, and they are fully aware of what their duties are when they sign up.

(The primary duty of the military is to go to war when called, that's it plain and simple)

Hate me if you want, but that is how I feel. You may not agree with me, but that is you progrative, you are entitled to your opinion. I gave up 6 years of my life so you could disagree with me on this. And even though I do not agree with you, I do respect your opinion....

Answer 4

Ha! I must say, I do agree. And get this-- another reason stem cell research isn't getting funded is because it's not in the interest of the pharmecuetical companies. I mean, no one's gonna buy their overpriced pills if there's a cure, right?
And yes, Bush is full of contradictions, not to mention b.s. Gotta love it.

Answer 5

) The aim of stem cell research is to produce a biological repair kit, tools that will allow age- and illness-damaged tissue to be repaired or replaced. These tools, coupled with effective cancer therapies, will greatly extend our healthy life spans and bring cures for all the most common degenerative diseases.

2) It is probably the case that scientists would eventually make as much progress using only adult stem cells - several extra intervening steps would be required, but it is conceptually possible. It is widely agreed that progress towards a full biological repair kit would be much faster due to embryonic stem cell research.

3) Time matters a great deal - more than 100,000 lives are lost worldwide each and every day precisely because we don't have a biological repair kit complete with therapies for the most common age-related conditions. There simply is no sane counterargument to this point. Speed is of the essence.

On with the research news, starting with this interesting fact: cancers have stem cells too.

Researchers have discovered cells that continually replenish leukemia tumors. Killing these infinitely renewing cells could be key to halting the disease.
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The promise of this line of research can only be realized, Weissman said, by studying adult stem cells as well as embryonic stem cells, which are controversial because an early embryo is destroyed when researchers remove stem cells from it. While in this study volunteers could provide samples, that won't be the case for all types of disease. An alternative is to take the stem cells from embryos that carry a genetic defect for specific diseases.

"There are whole areas of tissues you can't get at, but which human embryonic stem cells almost certainly will develop daily," Weissman said.

Scientists at the Reproductive Genetics Institute, a private clinic in Chicago, are also studying stem cells to discover the origins of disease. They have isolated 12 new stem-cell lines from genetically flawed human embryos, providing stem cells that will specifically develop seven diseases, including two forms of muscular dystrophy, thalassemia, Fanconi anemia, fragile X syndrome, Marfan syndrome and a type of neurofibromatosis. Couples undergoing in vitro fertilization donated the embryos after the clinic performed prenatal genetic screening.


Continuing progess towards growing bone with adult stem cells:

A single type of primitive stem cell transplanted from donor mice gave rise to both blood-forming and bone-forming cells in recipient mice. This finding, by investigators at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital, appears in the Aug. 10 issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).
The discovery suggests that this primitive cell could one day be the basis of new medical treatments to replace bone that has been lost to disease or injury, the researchers say.


As I noted at the Longevity Meme, the recent approval of a specific embryonic stem cell research project (including therapeutic cloning) in the UK has led to some interesting commentary from Peter Singer:

We think research using adult stem cells should be encouraged, but it's too early to know whether human adult or embryonic cells will prove superior for treating patients ... Although Canadians support therapeutic cloning, Ottawa won't likely reopen its new reproductive law. Then, when patients elsewhere are successfully treated using therapeutic cloning, Canadians will beg Parliament to change our law -- too late.
Personally, I think it's nuts that medical progress towards working regenerative medicine has been so held up and slowed by politicians and the regulatory impulse that the approval of a single therapeutic cloning research project aimed at curing diabetes makes world news.

Diabetes, by the way, has already been cured in mice using embryonic stem cell therapies, as has Parkinson's. There is no doubt at all that this UK project will result in a working cure for diabetes in humans - it's just a matter of time, money and hard work. Here is an interview with the scientist in charge, Austin Smith:

Answer 6

You are right, it makes little sense. But keep something in mind; When you are the president, and you have so many people looking to you for guidance, nothing you do will seem right either. You will never please everyone. It is a 'no-win' situation.

Answer 7

stupid girl, bush is the ONLY president who EVER funded embryonic stem cell research. and it doesn't work. they are unstable, and cause cancer. adult stem cells, on the other hand ARE stable, and they DO seem to work

Answer 8

I would have to agree.

Answer 9

so true