How can you be Pro-Choice?

Question

Say there was a homeless guy walking down the street. He colapses, and he is rushed to the hospital. He has no ID, no family to report him missing, nobody has any idea who he is.

It turns out he has a rare disease that can only be cured one way. By having someone continuously give him a blood transfusion for 9 strait months.

Obviously nobody should be forced to give the blood transfusion, that would be like rape. Lets say however that the hospital sweetens the deal. They set up a rullet wheel with 200 spaces. If you spin the wheel you get $20. If you land on 00 however, you get plugged into the guy.

So you figure what the hell there is only a 1 in 200 chance of hitting 00. So you spin, you lose and get plugged in. Nobody forced you to spin the wheel. It was your choice that got you where you are. can you unplug? You knew the potential consequenses of spinning the wheel, nobody can be blamed but you. Unplugging will kill this man. Should you be allowed to do it?

I'm from earth, I'm an athiest, and this argument does not apply to women who were raped, or when the mothers life is at stake

This is not a riddle. This is an argument from analogy. This is a hypothetical situtation that is comprable to an accidental pregnancy in every relevent way. If you are pro-choice should it be legal to unplug in this situation?

Answer 1

I wont get into the depths of why I am pro-choice but I will point out a flaw in your logic: some ppl don't necessary make a choice whether it be they are raped, on drugs, drunk, young and stupid, niave, taken advantage of, etc...

In your analogy the guy is healed and own his own afterwards. I suppose you prefer to force women to have HIV babies, drug addicted babies, babies born into severe poverty, etc... I am assuming you do intend to bring back full complete welfare right? I mean what is it? Is life only precious until you are born?

Answer 2

A person's body is their own, and therefore, the choice is ultimately up to them. Can you live with it after you do? When all is said and done, that's what really matters--if you can deal with it, why can't everyone else? Since you know that some people will be upset, don't talk to them about it, because they obviously feel differently.

It's funny, that those same people that would talk about you for unplugging, didn't bother to help the homeless man while he was conscious.
And, they won't shed a tear for him after he dies. They'll talk though, about you for stopping the fair and square deal. That's all they really care about? Maybe they take gambles like this all the time. Maybe this was your first time. Maybe you actually needed that $20.00 to buy food for your family. Would that have made a difference? Yes. Will people stop talking? No.

To answer your question, you should be allowed to do it, because it's your own body, and you have your own reasons.

Answer 3

I'm prolife too...
in that am a fan of living.
but i guess you could also call me pro-choice,
in that instead of other people making my decisions I usually like to make them for myself.

I'm sorry but a zygote or blastocyst is not a person. It is not analagous to a homeless fullgrown man. also everytime a woman gets pregnant, it doesnt kill her, as would a full-blood ttransfusion in this case. Also, I think what you may be upset about is actually euthanasia or lack of programs and lack of people to help the homeless and the poor. those are more analogous with your analogy.

I know youre not religious but a cell-thingy like a blastocyst cannot have a soul now can it? what about when it breaks off into two seperate parts by the 3rd week and turns into twins. are you telling me that twins have half a soul, or are only half alive?

is it neglectful homocide if a woman has a miscarriage? she didn't have the uterus to support that "child" so she should be arrested.

you know dust? that's your cells. that dye, they are in clumps-- much like zygotes and blastocysts. How dare you! you kill billions everyday!

also, what do you think about andrea yate's children, should she have been aloud to have an abortion? I mean if abortion is murder as you say it is at least they wouldn't of remembered it.

Also again, if abortion is murder why allow abortions for rape cases, or incest? by your logic we shouldn't be able to kill a baby just because someone was raped? Even when the mother is going to die, if the baby is going to live if it grows up, and it's embryotic life is worth that of any other human being, why should the baby always be the one to die? why not sometimes the mother, why are you allowed to decide?

To me if you're going to believe in something, you should back it up with reasons, which you did kind of. But all of your reasons are compromised by your drawing an arbitrary line through them. I would really love answers to my questions, good answers, not insults. you can post them here or contact me-- but i may post your answers, possibly with my rebuttal if that is neccessary. also, anyone else here could try to answer them. that would be helpful, thanks. :D

Answer 4

Are you saying that people who don't want children shouldn't be allowed to have sex? It would be really, really, difficult to enforce that. As far as it goes, I can see that you think that if someone decides to have sex they are "spinning the wheel", but have you considered that there are many cases where there is no decision involved? Rape and molestation, statutory rape, and also cases where it's not possible to have a child without killing either the woman or the child? I believe that a woman should not be forced to carry an unwanted child to term for many reasons, but those are the most glaring examples.Maybe it's something to chew on anyway.

Answer 5

Because a woman should have the rights to her body. It's her body, yet there are so many other people (governments, church leaders) telling her what she can and can't do to her body.

It is too easy to make a baby. Waaaaaaay to easy. And until the human species comes up with a way to change this, then a woman should have her right to decided if she wants a child. I take it you're a guy. Well as much as we men try to fathom, we will never know the 9 months of excruciating pain, the full effects of baring a child, that women do. So why not leave it up to them.

Answer 6

How can you not be Pro-Choice? I will bring up a very simple point which is not heavily debatable. Population increase. The world population is close to 6 Billion. We are running out of natural resources and habitable land to live on, do we plan to move on to outer space already? That sort of technology is probably another 100-200 years away. If we don't stop over-populating our planet, there will be horrific consequences.

Answer 7

Only a man can pose a question like this. It is a woman's choice to decide what to do with her body! She can smoke, drink, whatever... at the end of the day, she lives with her choices, just as we all do!

Answer 8

Ahhh..another non-Christian/religious person who is against abortion. Nice to meet you.

I can't, in good conscious, be "pro-abortion". Anymore then I could be "pro-serial killer". I've heard all the arguments, all the excuses. I've even seen people call babies "leeches", and "pieces of meat". Babies are supposed to be called names like "precious" and "cute". Not "leech".

Here's the deal though, I believe everybody has a choice. I can choose, right now, whether or not I want to pick up the pen in front of me, walk over to my neighbors, knocks on his door, and when he answers, stab him in the eye. That's my choice to make. The question is, do I make the right choice? And if I make the wrong one, am I responsible for my actions?

People say that a baby inside of its mother fits the definition of a parasite, that that makes killing it ok. I say, a newborn infant fits the same definition. Without it's mother, or someone else to "leech" off of it will die. So if a mother gets tired of having her newborn infant, is it ok to go smash his or her head in with a rock? After all, the baby was just a parasite. She didn't want to use her body or time to take care of it anymore. It was the mothers choice whether or not to "abort" it. Just the same as it's a serial killers choice whether or not to murder....

I believe that a woman made her choice when she decided to have sex. Obviously. She may not have made a good choice, but she made it, and she is responsible for it. I think that a woman should be held just as accountable for murdering her child inside of her womb, as she should be if she murders the child outside of it. Or wait, I don't mean "murder", I mean "abort".

I look at answers like dollface's and feel disgusted. Here is a "woman" who also thinks it's ok to smoke or drink or whatever while pregnant. She figures that it's her body to do with as she pleases. She's right. It is. Just the same as a woman who just gave births body is her own to do with as she pleases. And that new mother can make the choice to blow smoke in her babies face, or put alcohol in its bottle. Think about this though, a mother who drinks and smoke in excess while pregnant, is doing the exact same thing, only to a baby that is EVEN MORE HELPLESS then a newborn! I consider women who do this to be disgusting, sub-human creatures. Less then a roach. I've seen babies who suffer from F.A.S. and various other condition because of the criminal actions of their sub-human mothers. These children will suffer the rest of their lives because of this.

So yes, it IS a mothers choice whether or not to murder the child that is in her care, inside or out. But if she chooses to murder her child, then she made the WRONG CHOICE. Just like any other murderer made the wrong choice. Many people murder to try to make their lives easier. Like the Menendez Brothers. Actually, I shouldn't compare women who have multiple abortions to the Menendez Bros, they only murdered two people. Women who have multiple abortions should be compared to Charles Manson, or Ted Bundy. Only wait, neither Manson or Bundy had a thing for only murdering their own babies...hmmmmmm.

If a woman EVER made a choice to "abort" a child of mine, I would make the choice to "abort" her by ramming something through her skull into her brain. After all, it's my body, I can use it to murder if I want. She should understand that.

That's how I feel. And anybody who doesn't like, well, if only your mothers had aborted you. Since you don't think there is anything wrong with it anyway...you shouldn't feel offended by me saying that. I wish your mothers had aborted you. Or drank nothing but 151 while pregnant with you. Or smoked a ton of crack. Or did some belly flops on the sidewalk. Her body after all.

Answer 9

what the hell are you trying to say man... i dont understand your riddle.....

i dont beleive in abortion unless the person is raped or unless the mom's life is indanger by being pregnant.... i dont think abortion should be some whore's birthcontrol

Answer 10

How can I not be Pro-Choice?