Isn't "Infinity" a proof that there is a God?

Question

Infiniteness of space and time

Time:
There must have been something burning since infinity years ago. However, it would burn out after sometime. Therefore anything burning should have burnt out infinite years ago. (-infinity + x =-infinity)
2nd law of Thermodynamics states in layman terms that heat always flows downhill. (Entropy will always increase) unless work is done ( Guess by who :) ) How then do we still have a sun burning.

Space:
Three states of matter( Solid, liquids,Gas) and then you have a vacuum all compose Space. if you were to keep 'flying' out of space you would never reach an end. If you hit a wall then the wall extends further out. and so on a so forth out to infinity

So Mathmatically in an infinite amount of time this limited energy would dissipate through and infinite amount of space, leaving zero energy in any bounded area.


"And how many Signs in the heavens and the earth do they pass by? Yet they turn their faces away from them." [Quran 12:1

Answer 1

Your confusion lies in the fact that you can't comprehend that something can be finite yet unbounded, like the Universe has been proved to be. I'd explain it to you, but I doubt you'd get it. And even if you did, I doubt that it would appreciably change your views. You can always count on dogma to trump proof...

Answer 2

The fact than anything exists is proof that nothing has never been the state of existence, for it is logically impossible for something to come from nothing (remember, nothing means no space, dimension, or possibilty). From this we can posit that something has always existed. That brings us to the usual crossroads in this debate: either Allah has always existed (and created the universe) or the universe has always existed (independent of a creator). In either case, Allah is a certainty. Let me explain:

If you argue that the universe has always existed, you must also argue that the universe is infinite, because at no point in the physical universe can something and nothing co-exist (i.e., if the only thing that exists is a basketball, what's all around the basketball? Nothing? Infinite, dimensionless nothing containing a finite something?? Impossible.)

If the universe is infinite and eternal (space and time are one, remember) then presumably it has been doing its thing (whatever it is doing now) for an infinite span of time. now, look what the universe has done in the last 15 billion years? It created you. The universe is pretty predictable and deterministic, so if it created life once, in an infinite span of time how many times did it create life? Did all of those life forms die out, or did some of them evolve way beyond the stage we are at and figure out how to live forever? Maybe we had a race of super scientists that learned, over the span of a trillion years (thats nothing in an infinite span of time, mind you) complete mastery over the universe.

Allah as a super alien? Not so far fetched is it? It really wouldn't even change our definition of Allah because in a universe without beginning or end how can one say that the creation of this super alien scientists did not happen an infinity ago?

Just keep two things in mind, if you remember nothing else: the universe is inifinite and infinity is the sum of all possibility. (in other words, in an infinite span of time, all possibilities WILL be realized - including Allah). So, where are we now on that infinite timeline? Towards the beginning or towards the end? (What that means, basically, is that in an infinite universe, everything that can happen HAS happened.)

Mwa ha ha ha! Bow down to your space brother, Allah! Mwa ha ha...

Answer 3

Time is not infinite. Time began at the Big Bang, so it started there. Time is a property of space and matter. And we are not sure if space is infinite, although the current theory is that it is curved (like the inside of a ball), so you cant keep going, you will just eventually end up going in circles.. The sun is still "burning" because it is under a fusion reaction, and the gravity created by its mass holds itself together (and coincidentally, the gravity also forced the pressure to get high enough to begin, and sustain fusion.

Answer 4

First off I believe in God.

Now what you are talking about isn't proof.

Science has already figured out why stars burn so long. This disproves your first point.

Mankind is not avanced enough to truely see if space ever ends. It still could we do not know. This explains away 2.

explain what you are referring to as energy. Energy can be explaned in many ways by science including gravity. (which hasn't yet been proven, but there are many therories)

I do not pay close attention to the Quran; so you have to explain what these signs are. Remember many people don't believe in any Holy book, so you can't use one to prove your point.

Lastly "infinity" itself does not prove anything either. Most of the things can be explained other ways.

example: numbers go up to infinity, does that prove anything?

Answer 5

Is it just possible that nothingness or a lack of anything can simply not be a reality. From what scientists are saying is that while there was a Big Bang, as stars and galaxies flicker out and fail and merge and compress all matter will eventually crush back in on itself.... possibly to explode again in another Big Bang. This also means that there is an end to the universe, just farther than anything we can perceive. Maybe we're just in a cycle that lasts trillions of years. Maybe matter must be present in some form, always. Regardless, I don't see how that is proof of God... esp by the same rational God would have to have come from somewhere and himself would have "burnt out".

Answer 6

It has been argued, that the fact that you and I use the word 'infinite', is strong evidence of an infinite source. Can a finite mind generate an infinite concept? Can the effect, be greater than the cause? Research the root of that word. Start with; omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, eternal, etc.

If God is everything, and the devil is nothing, then;

1/0=infinity (an undivided soul, is one with God)

Answer 7

in accordance on your element, it ability that in case you have excitement right here then god incredibly exists. If there are some a chortle issues that are costly to then you God incredibly exists. go searching and notice all those issues around you: beatiful timber and plant existence, waterfalls and mountains. you are able to hear birds chirping and it is likewise between the evidence that God incredibly exists. existence's wonderful and that i'm particular that it coudn't have pop out of nowhere. there's a writer who did it for us or maybe scientist agree that there had to be some thing that introduced on even that super bang which made the universe. this is it.

Answer 8

yes the limited nature of the universe is proof of an infinite creator.

to prove the Koran your going to need more than that.

Answer 9

you understand neither physics nor cosmology , your arguments make no sense, and do nothing to further your contention that the concept of infinity, proves the concept of god.

Answer 10

No, the universe is not infinite (google "Hubble constant")

nice try, but there is no god.