what was nothing before something was created?

Question

because if there was no conception or perception or substance,there couldn't even have been a void?

my point is that(i'm a christian by the way) i believe the lord made the cosmos,and he is the beginning and the end,however before our solar system was created,what was there,in a mind boggling way,i'm trying to make your head spin,sure i'm no fool but no-one on this earth can identify this answer,its one of our great mysteries,just don't underestimate me guys,cos no matter how intelligent you are,you can't answer this one!

Answer 1

Nothing is undefined.

Think about that.

Answer 2

I believe that 'nothing' is a state that cannot exist and never has....if for the sake of argument we accept the concept that since the big bang, the universe has evolved to the point it has, with the human race at it's pinnacle...(as far as we know), then in billions and billions and billions of years, isn't it reasonable to assume our knowledge and intelligence will increase to such a level that we will eventually know everything!.....and I don't just mean in terms of brain-power, but throughout the whole fabric of existence....the whole mass of existence coming together in a colossal singular event!....Understanding!....
Is it possible therefore that at such a point in evolution, with nothing to learn, with nothing to question, with nowhere to expand, that the whole universe would explode?!
What I am proposing here is this,....What if the big-bang, the universe, life, knowledge, distance, expansion, time, intelligence, gravity, etc., etc., are all part of the same relentless movement towards this point at which the universe can no-longer maintain it's stability and automatically begins the process over again...at such a point the whole universe could explode and create a new big bang, starting the whole process over again.

But even so, with the whole fabric of reality caught up in this cataclysmic event, it should not be inconceivable, that since time is entangled within this theory, that the 'new' big bang is actually the same big-bang that happened billions of years ago.

So my answer is...maybe before the big bang, there was another, the same event, just a circular process starting with and resulting in the same event, but over such vast time-spans and physical distances that we have difficulty in comprehending it!

This is the best explanation I can give with my partially evolved mind, in the 'middle????**' of this evolutionary cycle.

The beauty of this theory is that, I, as an atheist can buy into it...and it also gives believers such as yourself a chance to see your God....he really is all around us...everything is him!

No-doubt the truth is far more bizarre than we could imagine....far more complicated than we could comprehend...far more frightening than we can perceive....but for me, it makes sense......reproduction....at it's most fundamental level..........`

Answer 3

Your question is the result of one more error in the bible. There never was a period with nothing or no-thing. GOD which is our chosen name for all that is, was or ever shall be always was and always will be.
Science has shown that that before the point at which we think there was no-thing, there actually was everything in a singular point or what was termed the "Singularity". The incomprehensible energy contained within that singularity blew everything apart eventually creating what we see today.
This does not disprove proper religious thought, only the basic misconceptions written in the bible. You must consider the educational level of the original biblical authors as compared to astro-physicists of today.

Answer 4

Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. The universe was always there. Humans just have a hard time believing that because in our minds there must always be some beginning and an end. We are born and then die, so we try to place a beginning and end on everything.

Answer 5

agree. But you're using the word "created" in the geology section? Good luck.

and yet... I don't think conception or perception are necessary for something, nothing, void or whatever to exist. Substance, or lack of it, or spacetime in which it can exist, or not, is what you're looking for. Whether there was any of those about "before" is way beyond the reach of my mathematics.

Answer 6

Your question, although obscure, is in reality a very convoluted philosophical concept. I remember my highly irritable Quantum Mechanics lecturer at university in Iran, when somebody suggested that coolth exists, fumed with anger and replied that coolth is non-existent in itself, it is the warmth that exists, and coolth is the result of the absence of warmth. To make it more understandable for you, the analogy can be drawn that darkness in itself is indefinable until you discover light, and after that you can call darkness “the absence of light". We can get into very deep waters if we begun to examine these concepts, and we need the brain of a philosofer, although I am sure you have the intellectual capacity to digest them. I myself, despite having a scientific background, am not very pleased with the explanations that science provides in relation to existential dilemmas. Thus I have found a greater reassurance in believing that before the world as we know it, existed the great architect, our creator, God; and still his presence is what is real and permanent, manifested in beauty and order all among the world around us. The rest is transient and superficial. I know of no other secular poet, who put it more beautifully than Shakespeare when he wrote;

"You might be sitting in a nutshell and count yourself the king of infinite space."

Before matter there was that intellect which created us.Remember that what we see is not all that there is in this wonderful span of creation. To perceive it all one needs supersensory intelligence. And to obtain that you need to embark on a very long journey of spiritual discovery.

I liked your question and may I wish you luck with your personal journey through life.

Answer 7

A void might hold nothing, even before something was created. But at that moment, the void would be redundant, and nothing could be considered as the opposite of something.

Answer 8

what a completely illogical statement! a void is a void. in terms of the universe or rather, before the universe, the ultimate void and the only true void - a complete absence of anything. if you are trying to say that a void is only a void when there is something to perceive it as a void then it wouldn't be a void.

Answer 9

All things including voids as well as time are subsets of this universe. So prior to the Big Bang, the universe didn't exist, and so voids and time did not exist, nor did the concept of "before".

Answer 10

The problem is almost certainly to do with the question. I don't think that we have the capacity to understand. Why can't we accept that, instead of always assuming that there is a scientific explanation. The problem is, that we have self awareness, so we can't stop asking questions about what's around us. We have great difficulty in having faith, and just plain accepting things as they are.

Answer 11

not even a void. before the big bang, there are two theories.
1. there was absolutely nothing, no space, no void, no energy, nothing.
2. the universe was a mirror image of what we are now, just negative in all aspects. negative mass, negative energy, negative space. think of it like making the transition from -1 to 1.