Cant argue with facts?

Question

Bush's tax cuts overwhelmingly favor the wealthy. The top 1% will save more than $30,000 per year while 31% save nothing at all. Source: Citizens for Tax Justice and AFL/CIO
The nation faces a record $500 billion deficit. The biggest cause of the deficit is Bush's tax cuts. Source: www.govexec.com
The Bush Administration is systematically turning back 30 years of environmental progress. Source: Sierra Club
President Bush is under-funding education with the smallest percentage increase in funding in eight years. Source: Committee on Education and the Workforce
2.9 million jobs have been lost under the Bush Administration. Source: New York Times
Bush misled the public about the reasons for going to war with Iraq. No weapons of mass destruction have been found. Source: The Guardian
Bush's Medicare bill helps corporations, not the elderly. 43.6 million U.S. citizens do not have health care. Source: www.misleader.org
Halliburton, the company where Vice President Dick Cheney was CEO, was given multi-billion dollar contracts in Iraq without competitive bidding. Source: New York Review of Books
Pentagon officials found that Halliburton overcharged the U.S. government by $61 million for gasoline in Iraq. Source: Associated Press
Bush has tried to roll back more than 200 of America 's environmental laws. The United States emits more greenhouse gases than any other country. Source: Rolling Stone
Click on the categories below for more Bush facts:

The Warrior
Money Manager
Has Lots of Friends
The Environment
More Like the French Than He Would Care to Admit
Loves to Travel
Tough On Crime
Employment Record
Helping the Rich
Helping the Poor
Foreign Relationships
Public Opinion
Bush: The Warrior

2 – Number of nations George W. Bush has attacked and taken over since coming into office.
130 – Approximate number of countries (out of a total of 191 recognized by the United Nations) with a U.S. military presence.
10 million – Estimated number of people worldwide who took to the streets in opposition to the invasion of Iraq , setting an all-time record for simultaneous protest.
$266,465,373,339 – Estimated cost of the war in Iraq to U.S. citizens. Source: http://costofwar.com.
104 – Number of American combat deaths in Iraq between May 2003 (when Bush landed on an aircraft carrier and declared an end to the open conflict and the middle of October 2003.
1007 – Number of U.S. deaths in Iraq as of September 11, 2004. Source: http://icasualties.org/oif/.
37 – Percentage of Americans who approve of Bush's handling of the situation with Iraq. Source: NY Times
95 - Percentage of Army Reserve Soldiers in Iraq and other Middle East bases experiencing significant pay problems. Source: GAO report.
36%: Increase in the number of desertions from the US army since 1999 (as of January 20, 2004). Source: The Independent, UK, reprinted: here.
What the bipartisan 9/11 commission said on the link between Iraq and Al Qaeda: "We have no credible evidence that Iraq and Al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States."
Bush: Money Manager

$28 billion - Amount of proposed cuts to veterans' benefits in the congressional Republicans' budget resolution for fiscal year 2004.
$127 billion - Amount of U.S. budget surplus in fiscal year 2001, the last year Clinton was president.
$374 billion - Amount of U.S. budget deficit in fiscal year 2003.
#1 - This year's deficit will be the biggest in U.S. history.
$7.29 trillion - Current national debt.
$1.98 billion - Amount on average the national debt increases each day.
$23,396 – Amount of each citizen's share of the national debt as of October 21, 2003.
#1 – Record for most bankruptcies filed in a single year (1.57 million) set in 2002.
#1 – Set record in 2003, for most residential real-estate foreclosures in a one-quarter period.
1.6 – Percentage increase in economic growth since Bush took office, the slowest rate of increase over an equivalent period for any administration in 50 years.
Bush: Has Lots of Friends

$11.5 million – Amount of hard money Bush raised through the controversial “Pioneer” program. Pioneers pledged to raise at least $100,000 by bundling together checks from friends and family.
212 – Total number of Pioneers identified by the Bush 2000 campaign.
524 – Total number of Pioneers later revealed through court documents.
61 – Number of Pioneers subsequently named to government posts.
19 – Number of Pioneers subsequently appointed as U.S. ambassadors.
2 – Number of Pioneers subsequently appointed to the Cabinet .
$5.3 million – Amount Bush raised this past September 30 toward his re-election campaign, breaking the one-day record he himself set.
Bush: The Environment

58 million- Number of acres of public lands Bush has opened to road building, logging, and drilling.
200 - Number of public-health and environmental laws Bush has worked to downgrade or weaken since taking office.
#1: Rank of the US worldwide in terms of greenhouse gas emissions per capita. Source: The Independent, UK, reprinted: here.
Bush: More Like the French Than He Would Care to Admit

28 - Number of vacation days Bush took in August this year, the second-longest vacation of any president in U.S. history (Record holder: Richard M. Nixon.)
13 - Number of vacation days the average American receives each year.
Bush: Loves to Travel

65 – Approximate number of fund-raisers attended in 2002.
0 – Number of trips taken to Afghanistan before waging war against that country.
0 – Number of trips taken to Iraq before waging war against that country.
0 – Number of funerals or memorials Bush has attended for soldiers killed in Iraq.
Bush: Tough On Crime

#1 – First president to execute a federal prisoner in the last 40 years.
8 – Number of days after that first execution that a second federal prisoner was executed.
#1 – As governor of Texas , executed more prisoners (152) than any governor in modern U.S. history.
Bush: Employment Record

2.4 million – Number of Americans who lost their jobs during the first two and half years of the Bush administration.
9 million – Number of workers unemployed as of September 2003.
#1 – The administration is well on its way to being the first since Herbert Hoover's to preside over an overall loss of jobs during its complete term in office.
+6%: Percentage change since 2001 in the number of US families in poverty (as of January 20, 2004). Source: The Independent, UK, reprinted: here.
Bush: Helping the Rich

#1 – Has assembled the wealthiest Cabinet in U.S. history.
$10.9 million – Average wealth of the members of Bush's original 16-person Cabinet.
75 – Percentage of Americans unaffected by Bush's 2003 cuts in the capital-gains and dividend taxes.
$42,000 – Average savings members of Bush's Cabinet are expected to receive this year as a result of cuts in capital-gains and dividends taxes.
$42,228 – Median household income in the U.S. in 2001.
$116,000 – Amount Vice President Dick Cheney is expected to save each year in taxes.
9 – Number of members of Bush's Defense Policy Board who also sit on the corporate board of, or advise, at least one defense contractor.
Bush: Helping the Poor

43.6 million – Number of Americans without health insurance as of 2002.
$300 million – Amount cut in December 2002 from the federal program that provides subsidies to poor families so they can heat their homes during the winter.
Bush: Foreign Relationships

35 – Number of countries to which U.S. has suspended military assistance after they failed to sign agreements giving Americans immunity from prosecution before the International Criminal Court.
#1 – First American president to ignore the Geneva Convention on warfare (by refusing to allow inspectors access to U.S.-held prisoners of war).
Bush: Public Opinion

90 – Percentage of Americans who approved of the way Bush was handling his job as president on September 26th , 2001.
67 – Percentage of Americans who approved of the way Bush was handling his job as president on September 26th , 2002.
54 – Percentage of Americans who approved of the way Bush was handling his job as president on September 30th , 2003.
50 – Percentage of Americans who approved of the way Bush was handling his job as president on October 15th , 2003.
10 million: Estimated number of people worldwide who took to the streets in opposition to the invasion of Iraq, setting an all-time record for simultaneous protest. Source: The Independent, UK, reprinted: here.

Answer 1

2+2=5

Dear heart plus...(person below me)

If you had any understanding of how sarcasm and irony worked, you would realize that 2+2=5 is in reference to the question posted "can't argue with facts?" which is followed by a bunch of half-truths, assumptions, and opinions, and therefore, nothing to do with the truth. My statement of 2+2=5 is a much shorter way of listing all that the poster listed after his initial "question."

I apologize if intelligent humor is too...intelligent for you. You are a Jenius with a capital J (again, sarcasm).

Answer 2

Sorry. Didn't read past your first point because, really, they weren't related, and your whole post smacked of a tirade, not a question. However, when people say that the wealthy are not taxed fairly, I have to question their definition of fair. When I was in school, fair meant equal or something like it. In my mind, it still does. So fair would mean that everyone would be taxed the same percentage. I'm taxed in the lowest bracket. If I move up much, unless I move up a whole lot, I'll be taxed in the next bracket and I'll actually end up making less than I do now. How is that fair?

The year my brother got married, he was taxed 60%. Is it fair that he and his wife had to work for 7 months just to pay the government and only got 5 months of their pay for themselves when there were people who weren't working at all but getting benefits?

Answer 3

I would love to argue the facts with you. However, some of us have jobs and can't spend the amount of time required to refute everything you listed. All I have time to do is summarize:

Everything you listed are either lies, facts taken out of context, information put forth by non-credible sources, irrelevant, or no different than under any other president.

I'll refute the first "fact" now. The top 1% pay the vast majority of the taxes. So, even if they get a smaller percentage tax cut than lower brakets, they still save more in total dollars (this is easy to understand by anybody that passed 3rd grade math.) So it may be a "fact", but it is completely irrelevant, as those that pay taxes get a break, those that don't pay taxes, dont get a break.

Try putting them forth one at a time, so people can take the time necessary to refute them.

Answer 4

All the BS and your left out the fact that most middle income people get the majority of their taxes back in the form of a refund.
You also left out how the top 5% (rich) pay 85+% of all the taxes.
I got every cent back from my taxes thank to Bush's tax plan. Under Clinton the USA would have kept $5000 of it. Your obviously motivated by stupidity and hate. I would vote for bush again just to keep my tax's the way he's put them.
Thank you GW Bush

Answer 5

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Answer 6

The thing that really pisses me off is the jump from 15-25% for the middle class. NO other brackets have a 10% jump. I just want a Balanced tax table. I don't care how much the wealthy people pay.

Answer 7

Your ranting and raving appears to be based on a lot of hatred and some pretty crummy information sources, beginning with the AFL/CIO and the Sierra Club and ending I know not where, since your trash isn't worth reading.

Answer 8

Well obviously your opinion is with the majority....which is why the Bush Family has held 3 Presidential terms....NOT!
You dumbass - Feel free to excercise this freedom of speech under the grim hands of the muslim extremist, which is where we would all be if it were up to idiots like you.
Thanks GOODNESS for the likes of the Bush Family....

Answer 9

Brilliant. But if facts really mattered to his constituency of LCDs, he wouldn't have had the chance to steal that first election to begin with.

And don't forget the THREE TRILLION of national debt he has added in just 6 years.

Answer 10

So what's your question?

Some of thoes facts are irefutable. Some are certainly debatable and subject to quite a bit of spin.

some of you above have your "facts" confused. The top 1% don't pay 85% of the taxes. It breaks down like this.

The top 1% of taxpayers by income pay 33% of all individual income taxes, and 22.7% of all federal taxes.
The top 5% of taxpayers pay 54.5% of all individual income taxes, and 38.5% of all federal taxes.
The top 10% of taxpayers pay 67.4% of all individual income taxes, and 50% of all federal taxes.
The top quintile (20%) pays 82.5% of all individual income taxes, and 65.3% of all federal taxes.