So let me get this strait, men have no right to protect the lives of unborn babies?

Question

Does that sound about right to all of you who copped out to my last qustion saying that I have nothing to say because I am a man? Or do you just not want to face the truth of my words? My wife and I have been trying to have another baby for six years and can't, but we hear of these women killing their unborn babies because "the time just wan't right" How sick is that?

Answer 1

nope, we have no say, according to the baby killers, and they almost always play that rape card too, that REALLY pisses me off, a huge majority of abortions are not from rape, but people that are responsible enough to have sex but not responsible enough to raise a child.

Answer 2

I wish you the best of luck in having a child. I am more then certain a child will be a welcome to your home.

As a matter of a fact, you may want to try and adopt, that may promote people to put their children up to adoption rather then have an abortion. (Maybe that is what God is telling you!)

But come on, you ask a question about why *women* think abortion is about them? Of course your going to get answers about why abortion is not about *you*.

And as for the last thing being sick, that is no different from a person stuffed with food, and throwing food in the garbage, when there are many people starving in the world.

Also, I don't know what's worse, killing unborn babies, or forcing them to live in a world where they have screwed up lives unwanted by their parents, only so you can have a clear conscience.

Answer 3

You're 100% right. I completely understand women's problems when they're pregnant and don't want to be. But it's not fair at all when they say, "It's my body, I can do what I want." It's NOT like that. There happens to be someone else's body inside you. Once a woman becomes pregnant, she CAN'T go back. She IS a mother. There is a life at stake. It's not like you can put a baby up for adoption. There are SO many parents waiting to adopt. It's so unfair for people to think they have the right to destroy lives just because they're "not ready". A life is NEVER a mistake.

Answer 4

I am against abortion too and saying you can't talk about protecting baby's life just cause you are man and they have rights on their bodies is totally selfish because they are forgetting men right to the paternity.

God will judge them but I think they can't get you because they are blessed to be able of getting pregnant while your wife can't.
For those women who abort why don't you give in adoption to the baby for helping couples who can't have babies??? You could help world in that way instead of destroying. The baby is an independent body inside you, not your property.

Answer 5

It is very sad that a lot of unwanted pregnancies are terminated, without any input from the father.

I too had trouble conceiving, as did my youngest sister. She gave up after several misscarriages. She has a 6 year old son. After she stopped trying to get pregnant, she did and has identical twin girls.

We went to see a specialist after trying for a year. He said try for one more month and if nothing happens come back. We didn't have too. Our second and last child was conceived 6 years later. We wanted to have at least one more but it wasn't meant to be.

It seems there is something to the fact that when people try, it doesn't always happen in our time, but in God's time.

Answer 6

A lot of women don't think reproduction issues are "mans" issues. Don't take it personally! LOL

But you are right to make the point that men have just as much right to protecting their babies as the women do.

Radical Womens groups talk about the right to "choose", but they made their choice when they allowed another human being inside them to create that baby in the first place. The baby does not belong to the woman until it's born, it belongs to both parents equally.

Someday men will have some rights in this arena, but for now we have to just keep fighting!

Answer 7

'Unborn babies' is a very sensitive topic and I guess there is no 'One right thing'. What about women who cannot absolutely provide anything to a baby if it comes into the world? Is it fair to let it live in a hell? At the same time is it fair to kill a being because it may suffer? I dont know the answers to this. I guess there are no right answers either.

Answer 8

As one who abhors double-standards I can sympathize with you. At the same time, you have to consider the following as far as the role of each gender in creating a child:

The man spends a few minutes (if not a few seconds) in a pleasurable situation, and his role in the creation is over. The woman spends the same amount of time (most of the time, at times she's totally victimized) in that same situation, but for them it is only the beginning. Morning sickness, headaches, anemia, bloating, changes in appetite and mood swings, not to mention her entire body being altered forever, and that's only the physical part. The emotional part is the fact that she has to give up a lot of her personal goals in order to be able to accomodate the pregnancy and a future of having to make sacrifice after sacrifice because she can no longer think of just herself.

Consider THAT, and you will realize that under the circumstances, man should have NO SAY, and until he goes through the same hardship women have to go through in order to have a child, HE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A SAY.

So when it comes to it, it may not seem fair if you're a man, but then again, as men you'll never be able to put yourselves in our shoes, or you will see that this is truly no double standard. But even if it was, consider this: In this society and over the centuries, men have been stacking all kinds of double standards on women. I think that it is only fair that there may be one double standard stacked against men.

Answer 9

I'm sorry for the trouble that you and your wife are experiencing with conceiving a child - but I do have to say that lashing out and criticizing others is rather distasteful. You might want to check out the book "Freakonomics" and read what legalized abortion has done for the crime rate in our country (unwanted children tend to experience a poor childhood and have a greater chance of becoming criminals). As for all of you who replied earlier - it is a woman's right to choose and her reasoning need not satisfy your rationale/beliefs. If you're pro-life, that's your right - but this isn't the forum nor is it right to judge others - it's a personal decision that isn't easy for anyone. Who are you to call individuals baby-killers and state that 'God' will judge them!? Different people have different views, some don't view it as a life until it breathes so they don't view it as taking a life, some don't believe in God - so don't go imposing your beliefs on others in a public forum such as this, leave that in your bible thumping prayer group. My siblings and I were raised to be pro-choice, but when the time came my brother was lucky enough to be with a woman who included him in the decision and they both decided that couldn't go through with having an abortion and as result I'm one of the luckiest uncle's in the world. So before you go judging people, know that everyone's situation is different, yes, it's ironic that this man happens to want a child and cannot conceive while every day others are opting out of it but that's life. No one said it was fair.

Answer 10

what's going on in your life has nothing to do what's going on in the lives of other people. You can't sit there and condemn someone for making a decision that affects the rest of their lives. Of course you have a right when it comes to your child, but ultimately it's the woman's choice to do what she feels is right. There isn't anything "sick" about it. I think your jealous, simply put. I didn't see your last question, so I don't know what happened there. Lose the aggression. Good luck to you and your wife.

Answer 11

Based on the experiences of a very dear friend of mine, who, because of her utterly selfish husband, spent more than $11,000 (above and beyond the thousands paid by their insurance companies, because, believe it or not, insurance companies will PAY for fertility treatments!!!), four years, and endless humiliating tests and "techniques" and drugs and a little bit of every kind of weird science known to man - I think this is among the most selfish of pursuits.

It is almost always the male who wants a baby that is "his own." The poor put-upon woman, who at times has to turn herself into a pretzel and then prop herself upside down for upwards of half an hour after the "act" would just as soon give up.

It doesn't matter.

All I can say, as a woman and a mother is: if you can bear a child, you have a right to have a say in your reproductive system. If you cannot conceive a child within your body (by choice or by force) and bring that fetus to term, then pass that fetus through your - ahem! - equipment, feed and nourish and clean and love and cherish and teach and play with and stay with for the rest of your natural life - you can have a say in the reproductive process.

Otherwise, shut up and butt out.

In Maryville, Tenn., in the not-too-distant past, a man whose former wife had, along with him, fertilized several dozen of her eggs, decided he didn't want to bring even one of those fertilized eggs to fruition.

Those frozen embryos were being kept in stasis until someone decided what to do with them.

The court was invited into the mix.

The wise judge, after much consideration and grave thought, decided that his fellow man was, in his words (paraphrased here) free to choose whether or not to become a father.

That precedent-setting decision has made official what all women everywhere have always known: men do not have to be fathers unless they choose to be.

Women have not always had that choice.

Wouldn't it be fun if each pregnancy had originated with the woman having chosen, with love and forethought, to lie down and become pregnant?

Would that it were that simple!

Many, if not most times, that is not the case.

Women are victims of failed birth control, bad timing, forceful boyfriends and husbands who don't understand that they do not have the god-given right to sex on demand.

Many women (young ones) are victims of fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins or others known to them, who take advantage of their youth and vulnerability and impregnate them.

None of these women should be forced to bear a child.

None of these women should be forced to give up the rest of her life because some man says she should.

NOPE. Men don't have any say in the matter.

IF the woman in question invites you in, and gives you that privilege, and it IS an honor to be cherished, that's her choice.

But you, sir, have NO right to say yea or nay.

Period!