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Isn't there a contradiction here????

2006-07-20 13:14:44 · 19 answers · asked by Shivers 2 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

"""Not at all.
99.9% of all people on death row are there for murder.
Check your facts, dude.""""

Ok. However, some are innocent and were unjustly incarcerated. The point of the question is that Pro-Lifers consider life to be sacred, so that should apply to all life. Any of you right-wing wackos ever heard of Christ's motto: FORGIVENESS???

2006-07-20 13:32:20 · update #1

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Great question.
If you are pro life you believe that the unborn (baby or fetus, a rose by any other name is still a rose)....you believe that the unborn are little human beings with the same rights as any other human being. In the Declaration of Indepence, Thomas Jefferson said, as human beings we are "...endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." To paraphrase this quote, it means all humans have been given rights by God that no government or anyone else can take away.
When a person violates someone else's unalienable rights (i.e. kills them without just cause), that person gives up his/her own rights. Therefore our society is justified in killing murderers.

The unborn, on the other hand, have committed no crime. So no one is justified in taking their life away.

There is no contradiction. You might just as well be asking, "Why don't Pro-Death penalty people want to kill everybody? Isn't there a contradiction here." Same answer.

Additinal comment: Easy now. I can explain the forgiveness thing.
When we think of the giving the death penalty, we often think of getting revenge on murderers. This is a wrong attitude that Christ would definitely disapprove of. We can forgive them, that is no longer hate the murderer, but have an attitude of love toward him/her. But that doesn't mean we don't administer justice (i.e. put him/her to death). To forgive someone doesnt mean you don't hold them responsible for their crime, it just means you no longer have bitterness toward them, but love.
What your calling "forgiveness" is really "mercy". Mercy is when you don't give someone the penalty they deserve. Jesus did teach about mercy, but it was only given to people that admitted their crimes (sins), and were genuinely remorseful, repentant, and wanted to change (i.e. the Prodigal son, the murderer on the cross next to Jesus on calvary). Even in this case, I don't think anyone is required to give mercy.

There's a lot of stuff like this in the Bible that is commonly misunderstood. I hope this explanation helps.

2006-07-20 13:51:50 · answer #1 · answered by Chapin 3 · 0 0

The contradiction goes both ways. Conservatives generally support the Death Penalty and are against abortions, and the Liberals are usually the opposite, We support abortion and are against the death Penalty.
I have given it a thought or three and a compromise is difficult but not impossible. For example, if the death penalty was limited to those that are convicted on solid evidence of law bidding citizens and conclusive forensic evidence and little or no doubt like a free admission or no contradictory evidence. Also, substantiated along evidence is mitigating evidence being completely described held as no binding in the case of legitimate and provable evidence Then the death penalty could be used.
On the abortion issue, the wording would have to be very carefully drawn, but the need for an abortion, beyond the willingness of the person who needs or requires the abortion would have to be established beyond a reasonable doubt. The concern that illegal abortive activity is a likely or probable circumstances would have to be established, and the health of the baby and the mother would have to be considered beyond a doubt.
This all would be a demanding case for the abortion which must be established before it is approved. Also, economic circumstances and state of mine. Counseling before and after if it is approved and such.
What do you think, is compromise possible?

2006-07-20 14:07:29 · answer #2 · answered by zclifton2 6 · 0 0

Christian perspective: Like maximum matters, you will detect Biblical help for the two component in case you look stressful sufficient. As Shakespeare as quickly as wrote, “the devil can cite Scripture for his objective.” There are certainly many passages in the previous testomony that help capital punishment, often for fairly trouble-free offenses: - Adultery (Leviticus 20:10) - Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:sixteen) - Breaking the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14 & 15) - Disobedient little ones (Exodus 21:15 & 17; Leviticus 20:9) - Homosexuality (Leviticus 20:13) - Failing to regulate your farm animals (Exodus 21:29) - not being a virgin on your wedding ceremony nighttime (yet on condition which you're a woman - Deuteronomy 22:20-21) the recent testomony (starring Jesus) is principally ANTI-loss of existence penalty. case in point, in the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus praises mercy (Matthew 5:7) and rejects “a look ahead to a watch” (Matthew 5:38-39). James 4:12 says that GOD is the only one that could take a existence in the call of justice. Romans 12:17-21 warns us against answering evil with evil, and assures us that God will see to justice in the afterlife. In John 8:7, Jesus factors out that each and every physique people are imperfect, and subsequently unqualified to choose for despite if somebody lives or dies. My own renowned is James a million:20: “For the wrath of guy worketh not the righteousness of God.” there are various, many useful problems with capital punishment (that I won't get into here), yet in simple terms from a ethical point of view, it fairly is particularly sparkling that Jesus did not help it. real CHRISTians shouldn’t, the two.

2016-11-02 10:39:59 · answer #3 · answered by pachter 4 · 0 0

Abortion kills an innocent human being. The death penalty, when properly applied, takes a life as punishment for a crime. Accepting less than death as punishment for pre-meditated murder, devalues the life of the victim. That is my position. If you wish to discuss its validity (or lack thereof), ask another question.

2006-07-20 14:45:23 · answer #4 · answered by STEVEN F 7 · 0 0

Thats not true, if it is im an exception cause im for abortion and for the death penalty.But your right as much as i hate to admit it, i never understood how someone could be against one and not the other...However, your point goes down the drain with the right wing wackos comment....

2006-07-20 13:54:34 · answer #5 · answered by itsallover 5 · 0 0

That's assuming that all pro-lifers are cut from the same cloth. Not all pro-lifers are conservative, right winged moral majority types. That's like assuming all gay people are liberals.

2006-07-20 13:21:36 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Many are. You're right. I would tend to believe that unborn life is innocent and people on death row are usually not.

2006-07-20 13:19:38 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

great question...

pro life is giving a baby a chance at life, who has no say in the matter.

pro death, is punishment for a crime or bad choices the person already made

2006-07-20 13:19:48 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes, there definately is a contradiction there.

But, it's basically people not really believing what they say. If all life is sacred, then all life is sacred, there is no exception.

2006-07-20 13:27:14 · answer #9 · answered by regmanabq 2 · 0 0

Not at all.
99.9% of all people on death row are there for murder.
Check your facts, dude.

2006-07-20 13:18:51 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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