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Not the stories from the bible or anything the actual physical science of the matter I want to hear an actual black and white understanding of someones philosophy?

2006-07-20 07:28:26 · 22 answers · asked by Andy29Pandy 2 in Science & Mathematics Biology

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Unfortunately it really is just guesswork. We have evolution to explain how life has changed into what we see today, but we only have shaky, speculative theories on how it all started.

I am NOT some bible thumper, and I hate it when they twist around the inability of science to currently explain this particular facet of the universe to justify their views. That science can't solidly explain something at the moment does not add justification for the fairy tales they believe in.

If you are looking for a "black and white" answer, then I wish you luck but seriously doubt you'll find one; there is just way too much speculation involved in this arena to firmly find the "right" answer.

2006-07-20 07:34:40 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

You see that many people do have ideas on how the first life forms were created...

A biologist will be a little less emphatic about it, if only because science can at best say how something could have happened, not how it did happen in this particular case. Some would argue that it scarcely could have not happened, that life was inevitable. Most, though, would say that it might not have happened, but did.

The Urey-Miller experiments from the 50's (referred to by other answerers) show nicely how organic molecules can form spontaneously in some conditions. Anyway, let me not go on with this, for Tim W's treatment above is very good. Once you get something like self-replicating RNA, Darwinian evolution explains the rest. (NB. Again here, Darwin far from assures much evolution, but in this world's case, it did a knockup job).

Let me use my response to coment on a few comments that have come:

1 -- "To answer this question - first answer these questions - How does life start today?"

No, conditions are clearly not as they were in the beginning. Another first could not happen now, in our atmosphere, just on account of its chemical composition. This atmosphere, however, is a product of so much life, which has geatly changed it.

2 -- "Philosophy does not count in science."

Not so.

3 -- "Matter was created"

Some answerers began talking about the beginnings of the universe, questioning whether matter can come out of nothing. Clearly this is a very different question, but, well, what would a physicist say about this?

4 -- ".... then to plants then to invertabreas then to fish then to amphebians then to reptiles then to mamals then to monkeys then to humans"

Not really like this... To say that 2 phyla have a common ancestry is not to say that one evolved out of the other. This is a common misconception, so common that it has a name, the "ladder model"

2006-07-20 17:52:08 · answer #2 · answered by Rob 1 · 0 0

Philosophy does not count in science.

What you have evidence for does count.

There are two directions to approach the problem of life origins

first we can discover the minimal set of genetic coding that would form a self reproducing system. This has been done and so we know a great deal about what the original cell needed to contain.

We can see how and where each of the components of this minimal cell are formed. We follow the method of each molecular construction necessary and see what conditions it forms under. Here we notice a wild divergence in ideal environments to produce the parts. Space, Geyser, under sea vents, lightning storms, and clay stratification are all indicated as possible partial locations. We are still looking for a location where all would reasonably be expected to come together.

What has been discovered is that most parts of the process are natural chemical reactions that occur spontaneously in non-life conditions.

Clearly the study of abiogenisis is well into the subject and making good steady progress.

2006-07-20 14:47:57 · answer #3 · answered by PlayTOE- 3 · 0 0

To answer this question - first answer these questions - How does life start today? It comes from a living being. So, has things changed since the beginning of time? Was there a time when people just appeared out of thin air? The answer is NO. Life is the only thing that can produce life.

Just as today - a living being gives birth to offspring which is living - a dead being cannot give birth to a live being. So where does that leave us?

For more information on the Bible
Check out http://www.johnfourteen.com
Click on "Studies in the Bible"

2006-07-20 14:38:03 · answer #4 · answered by Gladiator 5 · 0 0

here's a very simplified version...
an experiment was done decades ago (i have no idea how long!) where all the gases known to be present in the earth's atmosphere when the planet was relatively new were put inside a jar. electric currents were run through the mixture of gases to simulate electrical storms that were common all over the young planet before the atmosphere settled down. this stimulated the atoms of the gases to fuse with each other forming amino acids (you've probably heard of this being called primordial soup). and amino acids are the building blocks of dna so these in turn fused to form amoebae, bacteria, etc.
hope this helps!

2006-07-20 18:10:33 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Here's some grey matter of my philosophy. There is a Creative Intelligence that puts together all life forms, we can not see, hear, or touch this Intelligence with our human senses. Just look around (especially at nature) and you will see the evidence of this creative intelligence at work every day.

2006-07-20 19:10:54 · answer #6 · answered by Goldenrain 6 · 0 0

To say that God created the first life forms is the same thing as saying it happened naturally... and it did.
It was a simple reaction between chemicals and radiation under the proper conditions... and its been growing ever since.
There was no "Adam and Eve" that spawned everything else... it happened very gradually, and over a wide area of the earth. The diversity of life that we see today has existed since the beginning.

2006-07-20 14:38:13 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I tried to anwer this question when I was in high school.. I like the new theories about the amino acids which make up DNA and RNA, but I remember reading something about black smokers on the ocean floor. I think that may be a very old theory, but see if you can find more information about that.

2006-07-20 16:26:48 · answer #8 · answered by jeckepps 2 · 0 0

Well you could believe an unproven scientific theory that says how out of nothing, suddenly something exploded and created atoms, then after swirling around in space for thousands or millions of years, the atoms stuck together, and eventually, the right combination just happened to form to create DNA, one of the most complex molecules out there.
Or you could believe that one day, God decided that he was tired of living alone, and created the world and its inhabitants, in order that he could have some companions, but people sure screwed up that arrangement.

2006-07-20 14:35:23 · answer #9 · answered by smartee 4 · 0 0

God did. No one can explain how matter was created. There is the big bang theory but in order for that to work it states that matter was created from chaos. An explosion of forces that ended up with the creation we know. So now we have order from chaos. Hummm...I prefer the stories from the bible.

2006-07-20 14:34:01 · answer #10 · answered by N M 3 · 0 0

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