Would the rich get richer and poor get poorer if they had the same number of children?

Answer 1

I am always amused by those who insist that the rich are rich because of tax breaks...seriously, if no one had to pay taxes, do you really believe that the poorer classes would suddenly become rich?

Its not about tax breaks, its about responsibility. If you choose to have children you can't afford, that was your decision, and if that continues to hold you down financially, that is your own doing.

The rich tend to get richer because the rich are those who are making the responsible decisions, and tthe they don't stop making those decisions when they get rich. Just like a marathon, the leaders who continue to push forward will get bigger and bigger leads. The increased lead is not a result of actually being in the lead, its a result of continuing to do what is working.

Answer 2

This is actually a real problem. Many poor families are poor because they "create" more children than they can support. Successful, middle class and rich people do not do that. Usually, the middle class and rich have far fewer children than they could comfortably raise.

But the fallacy to your argument is that the poor get poorer (I know, you didn't make up the saying). That doesn't happen, in general, in this country. They may stay poor, but they don't get poorer. And when hysterical people talk about the number of Americans below the poverty line, keep in mind that the overwhelming majority of those people have cars, cable TV, computers, central air, and many of them have mortgages. So it's not exactly destitution.

Answer 3

the rich are getting richer because this society gives them an
advantage. Our politicians have made it so they get tax breaks and other benefits and such. Think about how the celebrities are treated and how they get stuff free all the time and how ex-presidents still collect a colossal paycheck for having been a President, etc. We do not value children in this country and that's why it's easy to blame all our problems on them.

Answer 4

this assumes that the poor have more children - i dont know that, and i suspect that other people's opinion on the matter is influenced by prejudice and hate, not facts

the desire to build oneself up by pulling others down is unfortunately common - and the cowardice and indecency of choosing the poor to pull down to build yourself up is common

the act of pulling anyone down confirms a person in littleness, it doesnt make them bigger, only good sense and good will and pursuit of one's happiness do that

for christians: you are commanded to lower the proud [the great, the overpaid, the overpowerful, the robbers] and raise the humble [the slaves, the underpaid, the underpowerful, the robbed of power and fairpay] - which heads us towards justice, moderation, calmer social seas, peace and order, heaven on earth

furthermore, if the poor do have more children, the degree to which they have more children, and the degree to which they are poorer, is in no simple direct proportion

pay ranges from $1 to $1 billion a fortnight - from a 1000th to a million times the world average

[which is US$15 an hour if you pay all homemakers and tertiary students]

[99% of people are getting below world average pay - 75% of americans are getting below world average pay]

i dont think that the number of children ranges so widely - do the poor have a billion times as many children?

yes, the rich would get richer and the poor would get poorer if they had the same number of children [if it is true that they dont have the same number of children]

the causes are as follows:

the drift of wealth from earners to nonearners is built into transaction itself:

the two things exchanged cannot be of equal value - their value must be different, ie x and x+y - so any transaction must be a fair-exchange-no-robbery [x for x] plus a shift of value [wealth, fruit of work] from one person to the other [equal to y, the difference in value]

over trillions of transactions, this drop of theft grows and grows endlessly

add to this the fact that people are usually trying to give as little and get as much as possible - ie, make y as big as possible by underpaying workers and overcharging customers by all means [theft, fraud - eg, puffing toilet rolls with embossing to make a 200 sheet roll as fat as a 300 sheet roll, so that a 6 pack of rolls gets a 6 pack price but has only a 4 pack number of sheets - and a million other deceptions]

add to this the fact that money becomes a moneymagnet, money makes money, the more you have, the easier the money comes [per unit of work], the second million comes easier than the first $1000, after the first million, money multiplies like rabbits, etc - the rich get richer, ie, the rich do less and less work per dollar got and the poor do more and more work per dollar got, the bigger investors get the 'plums', the higher and safer returns

eg, the rich close the rural country by making deerparks, driving the poor off, forcing people into towns, making labour supercheap, 10 year old girls pulling coaltrucks through 1 foot square holes in complete darkness ten hours a day, etc, etc

eg, the rich forbid the import of grain in famine, so the price can go skyhigh, and the rich make profits [with no work] and the poor die

global corporations force small farmers off land, and make big farms, which are much less productive, which reduces the quantity of food, and raises profits, and starves millions amid plenty

add to this all the plunder and conquest that is above the laws of nations

and you can begin to see why after 1000s of years of this uncontrolled drift from underpaid and underpowered to overpaid and overpowered, we have fortnightly pay from $1 to $1 billion

number of children not the cause at all - if the poor do have more children

the rich dont make money, they rake money - the poor make money by making products by work - the 'extractive' economy [the raking economy] is now 20 times the size of the productive economy - and the honest worker is still not outraged, is still not aware

this would not be permitted by an aware people - an aware people would understand, as the founding fathers of america did, that concentration of wealth [successful theft from the people] is the end of democracy and freedom

which we see in america today - the flowering of tyranny, fascism, slavery, nazism, state terrorism, the military state

it is only because the powerful have kept the people in ignorance and illiteracy over the centuries that the people are unaware of having been robbed

[it is obvious that no one can work more than twice as hard as the average person, who works over 50 hours a week [housewives 70-90 hours a week], so equal pay for equal work would mean no weekly income was more than double the average - instead it is up to a million times average]

1% get 90% of world income - US$70 TRILLION A YEAR - 99% are underpaid - 90% get a 10th to a 1000th [thousandth] of the world average pay - they are full slaves - the other 9% underpaid are wageslaves

the character fault that pours contumely on the poor, that scorns and ridicules and slanders the legally robbed, to leap to the prejudice that the poor are less responsible, work less hard, is ego driven not reality driven - and happiness depends totally on realism, on freedom from incorrect ideas -

all happiness is imprisoned forever in reality - serving the fantasies of the ego is hurting yourself - it is less painful to hit yourself with a hammer for ten hours a day than to serve the ego, which exists to destroy you

injustice - violence - escalation - ww3 - extinction

wold survival [rescue from ww3] and world peace is as easy as limiting fortunes to the just maximum, the most a person can earn by work [US$2 million] and spreading the overfortunes equally among everyone on earth [everyone to open accounts, one account per person to receive the overfortune, the return of the stolen earnings]

but there seems to be little appetite for peace, happiness, justice, freedom, democracy, sanity, sense, equality or fraternity [friendliness]

we are having too much fun going to extinction in a fast train, thank you

and we would so miss the torture, the terrors, the evils, the problems, the crises, the waste, the rebuilding, the murder, the massmurder, the wars, the genocide, the hiroshimas, the firestorming, the air battles, the ground battles, the amputations, the diseases, the spying, the expensive health, the worries, the corruption, the tension, the fears, the griefs, the angers, the bombings, the hijacking, the skyjacking, the starving, the blinding, the sexslavery, the cannonfodder, the lockerbies, the my lais, the biafras, the unabombers, the 9/11s, the vietnams, the massacres, the riots, the demonstrations, the clubbings, the endless vendetta back and forth, the enemy endlessly giving us endless justification for endlessly doing bad to them - i would miss all that

the 99% underpaid taking their earnings back by laws? - just for survival? - just for peace and happiness? - why?

Answer 5

The poor can become richer than the rich if they would choose to empower themselves, regardless how many children they have.

Answer 6

Once your rich you don't get to right your kids off on your taxes. People who have money usually waited until after college and acquiring stable jobs before reproducing. Poor people just seem to breed like roaches and dont even care of they can take care of their children.

Answer 7

Yes, the rich get a tax break, while the poor have another mouth to feed.

Answer 8

Yes, because the poor have fewer resources to spend on their children, so those children will not be able to get a good education, and therefore will not be able to get better jobs.

Answer 9

Children have relatively little to do with wealth concentration. Wealth concentration tends to increase in periods of low inflation, declining power of unions, and more liberal immigration. Conversely, wealth concentration decreases in periods of low inflation, stronger unions, and more restricted immigration.