whats your opinion on george bushs veto?

Question

legislation easing limits on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research "crosses a moral boundary" and is wrong. "This bill would support the taking of innocent human life in the hope of finding medical benefits for others," tell me,how is that different from soldiers dying for freedom or other patriotic reasons?this makes no sense whatsoever,and i find it highly hypocritical and frankly im disgusted but at the same time,not surprised,please dont tell me that stem cells are different from soldiers dying in the field because it is still death,any way you look at it,does anyone else see my point?if you dont agree,thats fine too,please i welcome all opinions,but be nice:)

Answer 1

What would he know about morals. He has killed more Americans than Osama Bin Laden.

Answer 2

Tony Snow, Whitehouse Press Secretary, said that GW Bush does not support murder. He then followed it up by saying stem cell research is not illegal, that private companies can continue to do the research, it will just not be funded by the federal government. Here, I shall try to argue like the Rapture Right: Stem cell research is murder. Stem cell research is not illegal. Private companies can murder because it is not illegal.
The real science, however, say this; It all begins with the five to seven days after conception. This is the time period during which embryonic stem cells can be harvested. Most on the right believe that life begins at the moment of conception. So many believe that to kill the cytoblast (the term for the embryo at this particular stage) is amoral and should not be done. i.e. It is murder.
When a couple decides they no longer want any more invitro procedures done, the companies that do the procedures are under the obligation to destroy the remaining supply of cytoblasts, the very same cytoblasts that could otherwise be used for stem cell research.
The Rapture Right's logic on this subject then leads me to believe that it is better to throw life in a garbage can than to use it for research and possible cures to diseases.
The embryos are frozen, they have 150 cells, they aren't even embryos, they are cytoblasts. They already exist and the Rapture Right would rather put them in the trash than in a laboratory.

Answer 3

What you are not understanding is that we have passed and do support NON embryonic stem cell research. There has been no proof or studies brought forth to support Embryonic will result in any further advances than the way we are gathering our stem cells to this day. Which is through adult stem cells and from the umbilical cord of fully developed new born babies. I don't understand what the big deal is. Why is it important to kill babies, when there is already a working alternative. I haven't found anything that would sway me toward embryonic stem cell research. With the research I have done, I have to agree with the President on this one. If you can provide me with a link justifying the Embryonic stem cell research benefits over and above the NON embryonic stem cell research I will be glad to look at it.

Answer 4

I was just reading the various articles on the vetoing of this bill and of course to prove his point the administration surrounds itself with "18 families who "adopted" frozen embryos not used by other couples, and then used those leftover embryos to have children." Well, what about these couples who didn't use the embryos? How did these families come about "adopting" them"? Since the embryos are considered to be alive, did the couples sign over their parental rights to the embryos? Just how did these 18 families get these embryos?

Who actually knows when does life begins and when does life end? Scripturally, if the Catholic church and other religious organizations would be truthful, the bible tells us that no "MAN" knows when life begins nor when it will end. The female vocal group Sweet Honey in the Rock has a song with the words "Can't no one know at sunrise how this day is going to end. Can't no one know at sunset if the next day will begin." Translation, when you wake up in the morning, you have no way of knowing if you are going to live to see the end of the day and if you there is no way of knowing whether or not your will wake up the next morning. So, the question remains, when does life end and when does it begin.

Did any of these people in their ecclesiastic positions ever asked the question or have the metaphysical thought that maybe God placed those frozen embryos for the primary reason to serve as research? But then again, "who knows the MIND of God'?

Yes the soldiers volunteered to be in the military, however, they were deployed to Iraq on what we now know was a wild goose chance and because of the old addage "my daddy beat your daddy" and that's why Bush, Jr. concoted the lie regarding weapons of mass destruction. So in a way, they are innocent lives being killed for what -- Cowboy Bush Ego. If one is listening, one should be able to discern that at this point, Bush doesn't have to listen to anyone about anything -- scarry?

The article further asserts "Although many in the religious right are passionately opposed to embryonic stem cell research, most Americans support it, and Bush risks alienating that majority in the critical midterm year." So was this a political move to satisfy the conservative religious right? Make you wanna go hmmmmmmmmm.

Answer 5

I think he was right to veto it, and the difference is that the soldiers in Iraq signed up to join the military, they are many other way to get stem cells, they don't have to come unborn children. I am all for research on stem cells but not ones that come from a fetus. This bill is more than just stem cells it is about the further degradation of the unborn human child.

Answer 6

I thought Bush could not destroy this country anymore with the issues in the economy, and the most disastrous foreign policies of any country I have seen or heard of in my life. I didn't think he was smart at all, not even one iota, but this stem cell thing is killing me. I don't think of it that way... You don't even have to use the soldiers' example. I have more point of views.

I understand that people are afraid of going the wrong way with this, but do you realize that we are so far away from cloning, it's easier to for a human to reach Pluto? The best experiment was when I think a maximum of eight cells were able to reproduce by themselves, and then they died.

Also, I'm all for abortion because I believe that it is my life, and you shouldn't force me to destroy my life by not having an abortion and taking care of the child. If I do have the child, my life and his/hers will suffer immensely, and it would have just been better to not have it. If abortion is legal, why not stem cell research? Abortion deals with an actual person... granted, he/she is still not fully able to live on its own, but it is an actual physical mass observable by the human eye. You cannot see an embryo without a microscope!!! Yes, stem cells have the potential of becoming a person, BUT AT THAT STAGE, THEY ARE A VIRUS LIVING OFF OF THE MOTHER!!! If an embryo could survive by itself outside of the mother's body, maybe I would change my view. But when all the "potential person" is is a bunch of cells, that's a parasite for my body!!! I should have the right to do whatever I want with it. I can have an abortion, or give it to science to at least do some good from my mistake.

Also, think of all you can cure with stem cell research. You can cure cancer by removing the cancerous cells and "programming" the stem cells to work properly and to fulfil the functions of the cancerous cells. You can cure brain diseases by programming stem cells to be brain cells. Brain cells never replicate by the way. Neither do the cells in your spine. If we ever get that technologically advanced, we might actually cure paralysis by giving people 'programmed' cells for their spines, and do soooooooooo much good. What if Franklin said that oh no... I'm scared of lighting, it can cause fire, and destroy forests and houses, I'm never going to touch it! What if the Germans said that the car was too fast and too dangerous? What if Bill Gates, and the Google founders, and Apple Founders said that their inventions will promote hate, thus they won't develop them? Well, you get my point, but unless we try something and get somewhere, you will never know what could have been. If people were afraid, we couldn't live our lives!!!

And also, stem cells are not only obtained from embroys! There are four kind of stem cells:
Embryonic stem cells - Stem cells taken from human embryos
Fetal stem cells- Stem cells taken from aborted fetal tissue
Umbilical stem cells - Stem cells take from umbilical cords
Adult stem cells - Stem cells taken from adult tissue
You cut off all research because you oppose one way it procures its resources???

You can do so much good... Yet we don't. We created and developed the atom bomb, but we don't want to find a way to save people. What does that say about the US government? As http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/al16.html states, Abraham Lincoln said it best: this is a "government of the people, by the people, for the people".

Sorry this is so long... I was so mad when I heard the news.

Answer 7

I dont know of a single person whose life was saved by embryonic cell research and I have no reason to beleive there ever will be any.

Answer 8

He is wrong for vetoing it. There are two paths that the embryos could take, they will be thrown in the trash or be used for science. Bush wants living embros to be thrown away.

Answer 9

Moron who runs the office who to imbecile to understand the significance of the research

Answer 10

It's about time he vetoed something. This will work.