for the pro-lifers, can somebody that is pro-life be pro-war?

Question

we have lost more lives in iraq (our soilders, iraq families) due to war then abortion. im a democrat and im against the war but still undecided on abortion. i can see valid arguments on both sides of abortion.

Answer 1

Abortion is a piss poor means of birth control, that being said it is not the governments responsibility to legislate morality and this is a moral question. As far as pro-lifers they are hypocrites as most support the death penalty also. We have killed many babys in Iraq and that is ok with them. Go figure.

Answer 2

I am very much pro-life, as far as abortion goes. the difference, I think, between being against abortion and for war or even the death sentence for criminals is that the innocent, unborn baby doesn't have a choice in the matter... no body asks the baby if it wants to be an unwanted pregnancy, no one asks if it wants to live or die.. the soldiers and criminals on the other hand have a choice as to whether or not they will enlist in the military or become a person running from the law.. when the soldiers enlist I assume they realize that should there be a war, they may be involved and could possibly die defending our country or the lives of others.. and the ones who land in jail awaiting the death sentence, well... somewhere along the way they, surely, have thought that they need to make some changes in their decision making abilities... at some point, I would think, it might cross their minds that "hey if I do this I could be in BIG trouble." but they choose to do it anyway... but they do have that choice... to walk away or continue on the path they are on... the unborn baby hasn't any choice at all whether it's going to live or die before it's taken its first breath..... I'm just as saddened as anyone about all the life lost in Iraq and I really hope those men and women are able to come home very soon... but they know they have a job to do and they are doing it.. what would the United States be if the soldiers of the past or present didn't do their jobs by keeping us as safe as they can.? we would probably be a country overrun by a sadistic phsycopath like saddam hussain. God help us if that day ever comes!!

Answer 3

I think in principle everybody is pro-life. Some people are just very black and white and do not leave room for special circumstances. If they apply this rigidity to their own lives, fine. The problem starts when they attempt to impose their views on others who do not share their views.
A wise man once told me that no virtue can stand alone. Meaning that everything in life is somehow related to circumstance and you have to look at the big picture when you read this. Remember that circumstances and accepted views change over time. what we consider immoral nowadays could have been consider normal in earlier times. Things change, even the things we do not think should, they do. At the end of the day, I think most reasonable people will agree that life is sacred and that nobody should take a life. But then, how come there is capital punishment? Who really has the right to tell a young expectant mother who was violently raped by an unknown and found out that her unborn child has severe deficiencies and will suffer her whole life that she cannot get an abortion but has to carry this child for nine months and give birth? I think this is the problem. Look at the circumstances, no virtue can stand alone.
War? In most cases i think war can be avoided. People will be people and sometimes mistakes are made. By their own principles, however, the so-called pro-lifers should be dead-set (no pun intented) against war as well. Unless they think there can be a war without casualties.

Answer 4

According to the CDC, there were about 850,000 abortions reported in 2002.

According the Information Clearinghouse, there have been a combined total of about 253,000 Iraqis and Americans killed in the Iraq conflict. This estimate is significantly higher than all other estimates of the Iraq death toll, like the more commonly accepted figure of about 40,000 given by the President and the Iraq Body Count project.

Even under the most generous of statistics, there are several times more aboritons per year in America than all deaths in Iraq over the past THREE years.

To answer you question though, someone who is "pro-life" can still be pro-war. Many people who consider themselves pro-life are opposed to the taking of an INNOCENT human life, typically the fetus. If a war was being fight against a guilty, harmful force, and steps were taken to protect the innocent as much as possible, they could support this war.

Some smaller portion of pro-life individuals are opposed to the taking of ANY human life. They would not feel one could be consistently pro-life and pro-war or pro-capital punishment. I do not believe these people make up the majority of the pro-life movement, though.

Answer 5

Do you seriously think more US soldiers and Iraqis have been killed than unborn babies? Where do you get this info??? You are soooo wrong.

It has been estimated approximately 46 million abortions are performed globally each year. Of these, 26 million are said to occur in places where abortion is legal; the other 20 million happen where it is illegal.

So, first off - get your facts straight. There hasn't been nearly 1 million deaths in Iraq.


Im not really FOR the war, but I'm not against it. We went over there for the right reasons - but with bad intelligence and information. But since we started the war, we must end it. We can't just walk away. If we do, the terrorist will win, will take over Iraq again, and will not stop attacking us.

Answer 6

They are both very different issues. I am against the war and pro-life. To me a child is a child and has the right to live. Sometimes the fetus is so developed that it just gives me the shivers that someone would abort it.

And yet I support some claims to abortion. There are times when the woman needs it done for medical reasons or if she were the victim of a sexual crime...

I don't know. These are very different issues. I suppose you can have differing opinions on them.

Answer 7

Yes, being pro-life is about protecting innocent life. Being pro-war is also about protecting innocent life. War is like self-defense, just on a larger scale. Under normal circumstances, you don't go around killing people, but if somebody is threatening the life of you and your family, then you are justified in killing them before they can kill you.

As far as abortion, I hope this argument may help you: we can't prove we have souls. Most people believe we do, some don't. What we can prove, is that an embryo is human. DNA tests will prove beyond doubt that it is human, and who the parents are. So, since we can't prove we have souls, we can't prove if and when our bodies are inhabited by our souls. So, does it make sense to kill a human when we are not sure if it has a soul? If pro-lifers are wrong, and you are human, but not a person, until birth, then there is no harm killing unborn children. But what if pro-choicers are wrong? What if you get your soul at conception and are a person? Since we can't prove it either way, doesn't it make sense to play it safe, and not kill?

Answer 8

I'm pro-life

I don't think it's possible to be pro-life and pro-war at the same time

as for abortion, I'm against it
I understand why some people undergo abortion and there are some valid reasons for doing such, but nothing is going to change my stand on this matter

Answer 9

YES, And they are also for the death penalty. So let me clear up some things here. Pro-life is not pro-life, it is anti-choice. If you think of them as anti-choice, it removes the hypocrisy. Next, nobody is pro-abortion, they are pro-choice. The good news is, you don't have to like or even have abortions, because you have a choice. Now, you can keep your morals intact, now that you see the motivation behind these groups. Hope that helps.

Answer 10

I am definitely pro-life and I am definitely not pro war. However, sometimes war is better than no war. Yes, life is lost and that is sad but it is the cause of right that is worth the sacrifice. The war in Iraq is necessary. would you rather us pick the time and place, or would you rather the terrorists do it here?