Social programs, is it compassion?

Question

Social programs are not compassionate. Put just a little but of thought into it. Social programs are not voluntary, and are therefore not compassionate. They help a tiny fraction of the population, while stealing from and screwing the rest of the population.

An analogy: Sex is great, and a beatiful expression of love between 2 people; as long as it is consensual, as soon as it is forced on someone, then it is rape (which is a crime last I checked).
If I voluntarily give my money to charity, that is compassion and is a beautiful thing. However, if I am forced to give money to charity, under threat of incarceration, then it is no different than rape.

If charity is not done out of love, it is not charity, and it is not compassion.

Answer 1

It's "compassion" when you give it freely. Otherwise, it's called "extortion".

Answer 2

yes it is. im a social work grad student and i have done extensive research on this subject. while some programs dont work a majority of them do. i have done geriatric social work and i have seen firsthand how medicaid and medicare are so important for the elderly in america. social security is also important and helping people pay bills.especially heating bills in the winter. would you rather we have no programs? i beleive that we as social workers must continue to provide empiracal evidence that the programs work. mental health programs and centers have proven to work, the states that have cut these budgets have seen an increase in crime and hospital stay, think how much this costs the state. south carolina spends more on prisons and emergency hospital stay then ever before since cutting the funding for mental health. the wic programs is also important for single mothers who need help buying food for there infants. i have also helped elder adults suffering from illness find housing thanks to housing programs such as hud. i support these programs becasue i have seen firsthand how they help children and the elderly. while not all of the programs have worked it is important for me and other social workers to find ways to make the programs that dont work, more effective. remember some programs dont work becasue they arent being run by trained professionals. if you need any more feedback on social programs (any of then) e-mail me and we can debate this some more. i have also done a research paper on the family medical leave act and both partys agree that this is a good policy. charity is good, but there are so many social problems that the goverment must play a role in. source: i have studyed and researched this topic extensively.

Answer 3

You mean like the way Bush is "stealing and screwing" us with this immoral and illegal war.
For a darling of the religious right,you have one salty tongue.Tell me again how "christ was an ultraconservative",and other self-loathing ways to hide behind the pages of the bible.How manly.

Why dont you just admit it.People who are anti-choice and also anti child-welfare are "save the babies" nutjobs?
These programs ARE done out of love.Dont tell me about it,tell the kids.
Yes,some programs are excessive and wasteful,but if you have no child programs at all you get a picture very different from the high-fallutin' Catholic Church says it should be,dont you?

Answer 4

On the flip side, consider the following two examples:

- If you don't have a publically funded medical system, there will be greater spread of infectious disease, which will eventually effect you too. The cost of fixing large scale medical issues after the fact is higher than preventative measures.

- If there is no social "safety net", a significantly higher percentage of people will live in absolute poverty (using the technical definition), resulting in higher crime. The cost of crime (which may or may not effect you) is the $150,000 cost per year of keeping somebody in jail.

In many (not all) cases, it is cheaper to the taxpayers to have certain social programs than to not have them. There are obvious exceptions to this rule.

Answer 5

I think the problem with social programs is they dont make enough effort to separate the people who really need it from the people who just want a free ride. Some people really do need a helping hand once in awhile but I know a lot of people who work in the summer, file for unemploment in the winter while they are vacationing in Costa Rica, it makes me sick.

It cracks me up how some bush haters want to relate everything wrong with the world with the war in Iraq. Get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Answer 6

Think you answered your own question. I don't think that you are asking anyone elses opinion. However, when is anyone threatened with incarceration if they don't give to a charity? How in the world can you compare anything to rape?

Answer 7

You're right. It goes back to "give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day; teach a man how to fish and you'll feed him for the rest of his life". Government programs for the poor do nothing but encourage poverty. They have no incentive for people to get out of the system. That's why we now have two or more generations of families on welfare.

Answer 8

And how many bread lines have we seen since social security and welfare?

I guess it's not compassionate to feed the hungry.

EDIT. There are fat poor people because cheap food is bad food. You live on McDonalds and frozen pizza for a month and see how you're doin.

Answer 9

To add:
What is the goal of such "compassion". Is it to maintain someones lot in life just to maintain their vote. Or is it to help one better themselves and achieve self sufficiency. If that is the case what percentage of generational welfare vs those that have weened off of such programs?


FACT:
I volunteer my time three days a week to cook at shelters. Most of the volunteers consider themselves Conservative yet all of the PAID administrators consider themselves Liberal.

Answer 10

LOOKS LIKE YOU ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION. But I would like to add that when you teach someone to hold their hand out instead of teaching them to use their hand to help themselves, you do nothing for that person, and you take them to an even lower level of self loathing.... But, at least they vote, and the democrates know that. Self serving butt heads

HEY WILL, WHEN DOES YOUR WELFARE CHECK COME?

Answer 11

You probably don't give to charity. Most people who complain that it should be voluntary don't