Ownership,because you are born here, does that mean the government owns you?

Question

Simply by birth does that require you to stay here, or should people be allowed to exsist outside mainsteam society, live freely and only mix w/ society for personal exchange of goods and services, and not pay taxes for social services they do not use.

Answer 1

That's not the way society works though and by the way yeah they do own you. That's why you get a trial if you try to kill yourself.

Answer 2

Well, are we talking about the whole planet or just America? Because, yes, it is possible to live 'outside mainstream society' as long as you are outside of America. I mean, there are ways you can be different and unique in this country... but to not pay taxes is illegal. By living here, you sign on to not only the rights but also the responsibilities of this country. If you want to drop the responsibility of taxes, move somewhere else and try to get the freedoms we do. Thats the predicament we all exist in day after day- you will not find perfect. It is a trade-off.

Answer 3

It depends on which country you are born.

Some countries/states adopt the jus soli principle. That is, you are a citizen of where you were born.

Some countries/states adopt the jus sanguinis principle. That is, you are a citizen of your parents country.

Regarding your second question, you are not required to stay in your country of origin or what we call domicile. If you intend to live permanently in, say, Russia, and commence legal action enabling the same which then results in the approval thereof, then there would be no bar in letting you be domiciled in Russia.

Different states have different rules on immigration.

With regards to your question about mainstream society, its only a natural phenomenon that you have to. Otherwise, you would not be able to use the Internet because you would not be able to pay it because you don't have a job because you don't want to mingle with mainstream society.

Yes, you could live like a hermit, but it is inevitable for you to come into human contact in terms that are socially acceptable to mainstream society.

You would have to groom yourself, take a bath, brush your teeth, talk politely, mingle, speak, etc. Otherwise you would be viewed as crazy. It may not be for you but it is a fact for other people.

Not paying your taxes is a civil offense, as such the jurisdiction of the state where you are living in would be enforced on your person. Laws pertinent to your case would be applied. Punishment would be determined.

I'm sorry to say my friend, that you have no choice. I once would have liked to be as what you want to be, but, I have realized the error of my ways.

It simply is not possible.

Answer 4

I agree, social services should be charged mostly on a use-basis. What use does a mountain man have for a VAT tax to build a new Wal-Mart?

You do inherently use the police force, courts and military though, since if something bad happens to you, they'll help out, so a small property tax might be fair.

Answer 5

Not sure where you live, but the US government does not own me. We don't have slavery here.

We can exist how we see fit, within the confines of our laws. We live freely and we determine how & when we mix with society (again, within the confines of our laws). We pay taxes where applicable -- land ownership, purchase of goods & services, to pay for schooling our society's children (even if we don't have them), etc...

Answer 6

The government doesn't own us. We own the government. The problem with what your suggesting is that the government doesn't work a la carte. It's all or nothing, like basic cable.

Answer 7

Only in a totalatarian goverment are the people owned by the goverment. and the individual has no rights at all

Answer 8

government was established by us. it governs us