Anyone else gay and think that the whole lifestyle is abnormal and perverse?

Answer 1

So to all you Christians who don’t have room in your heart for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people…I will remind you of the story of the Pharisees…the upright religious leaders of the day:

“While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and “sinners” came and ate with him and his disciples. When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and ‘sinners’?” On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”- Matt 9:10-13

Oh and a reminder…we are all sinners. You and me.
“For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” - Romans 3:23

And remember Jesus’ woe to the Pharisees:
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.” – Matthew 23:13

So because of people like this, we have seen countless GLBT people who once loved the Lord who now feel separated from God because of the voices drummed into their heads by “Christians". Christians who send the message of hate and hopelessness:
“God hates you. You are going to hell. You can’t be gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender AND Christian at the same time. You're an abomination to God.”etc.

Hmmm. A real sweet bunch of folks, huh?
By telling us that we are going to hell...you are saying more about yourself than about us.

When Jesus was asked by a mob to condemn a woman caught in the very act of adultery (John 8: 3-11) Jesus said, "He who is without sin among you, may cast the first stone" and one by one...the men starting from the oldest...disappeared. So before you decide to cast the first stone at us....you better examine the lack of love in your heart. Some people will say that the story is about the adulteress. But the story is also about the judgmental majority who were ready to prove how she was such a sinful person and execute punishment on her. Sound familiar? Jesus showed that their sin of unforgiveness and lack of compassion was no different from her sin. Jesus did not condemn her.

Ah...but you say" Yea, but see, Jesus told her '...From now on sin no more' and you GLBT people are still sinning."

Now look at what you just did! The whole idea of "He who is without sin among you, may cast the first stone" is that Jesus is saying...STOP POINTING THE FINGER AT SOMEONE ELSE! And there you go pointing the finger AGAIN at us...after hearing this story!

"Do not judge lest you be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. And why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." - Matthew 7:1-5

And what will happen when you take the log out of your own eye? You will see the humanity of all of us and realize that we are no different than you and that it isn't about trying to take specks out of each other's eyes...but about forgiveness, compassion and love for your brothers and sisters. You see our salvation is between us and God. Not us, God and you.

Consider Jesus' parable of the landowner. Some laborers complained because the landowner treated all his workers equally by paying them all the same wage. (Matthew 20: 1-16). The landowner said to them..."Is it not lawful for me to do what I wish with what is my own? Or is your eye envious because I am generous? Thus the last shall be first, and the first last."

And because of the silence of the church…we have suffered ridicule, condemnation and verbal and physical bashing. There are thousands who have committed suicide because of this message of hate and because of the fear of the church to stand up and say, “No…God hates no one. God loves everyone and the salvation of Jesus is open to all”. (John 3:16)
How is it that a Christian could tell someone that God hates them?
You may think God is backing you up…but He is not.

We are here to say that Jesus is our King and Lord.
Now in the new millennium, I have come to believe that our presence has a purpose in God’s plan. We are the thorn in the church’s side. We are here to teach about Christ’s inclusive love that has no bounds.
Christ’s love and compassion is open to all, not just you and your friends.
In the past, the church has used the Bible to justify slaughtering Indians, Black slavery, keeping women from having basic rights, the persecution of the Jews, upholding racial segregation, pushing down Black rights, etc. It wasn’t until a new generation realized that their elders in fact committed sin by their lack of compassion and active persecution of their brothers and sisters in the name of Christ, did things change. No wonder the world is cold to Christianity.

It is Christians who have turned off the world to Christ.

And of course now they are trying to prevent us from having rights to live, love and even to worship the Lord. Basic human rights.

“We love because he first loved us. If anyone says, “I love God,” yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.” – 1 John 4:19-21.

So I guess that means you HAVE TO love us just like we HAVE TO love you.

You don’t think we are your brothers and sisters? Oh yes we are!
Ahhh, but you think we are not saved because we haven’t “changed our ways”…because we are still gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender.

Answer 2

you will be reported for you insulting comments...hatred is what is abnormal and perverse...

and, I stand up and applaud azdbackfan99!!! if only all the "thumpers" read that!

and I also offer this...

To the Christian Right (or is that... the Christian wrong?)
Current mood: tired


An oldie but goodie...



Dear Conservative Christian,



Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I
have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge
with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.


I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.


a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They
claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?


b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my eye i require reading glasses would my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.


Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

Answer 3

"Lifestyle"? Makes me think you're in the wrong crowd. The club queens do bother me; tend to be hostile, higher incidence of drug use etc. But that's not all that's out there, and that's not "the only way to be gay". Look for a (normal) guy to spend your life with. Or remain single the rest of your life.

Answer 4

Perversion is something pedophiles practice. How can a relationship between consenting adults be perverse?

Answer 5

Far from it Phil. It's completely natural to me, and therefore is my "normal". For me to go against my natural instincts would be "abnormal" and henceforth, perverse.

Answer 6

Yes, and that's what makes it fun!

Freud termed homosexuality as an "inversion," not a "perversion." So I'm an INVERT! YAY!!!!!!!!!

Answer 7

Amen, brother azdbackfan99, Amen..

Answer 8

Azd, you are my hero

Answer 9

Nope and thank you!

Answer 10

No, I would have to say no.