Why did one let it get to this point in the first place? Since when did it become okay to allow children to usurp the teacher's authority? Why do teachers continually feel compelled to justify their authority in the classroom by entering into this type of discourse with the children?
This is a characteristic of poorly trained and/or poorly qualified teachers.
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I don't understand your problem with my comment. Teachers are ultimately responsible for everything that happens in their classrooms. Teachers are responsible for the safety and learning of ALL of their students. Poorly functioning teachers have a tendency to yell, argue, and embarrass their students as methods of classroom control. As I understand your comments toward me, you are suggesting that if I witnessed two classrooms, one in control, one not in control...you would inform me that the difference between these two classrooms IS NOT associated with teacher decision making. Rather, you might suggest, then, that the hypothetically observed variation in classroom functioning is more likely the result of some "cosmic" intervention? Am I right?
And 10 years of teaching will make me understand this?
You have got to be kidding me!
When did it become the job of teachers (and now parents) to be friends with their students (children)? Teachers are there to instruct, not to be their students’ "best buddy." The effects of the blurring of this professional line are evident in the national news, almost daily.
ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A "BEST FRIEND" TO BE A GOOD TEACHER OR MENTOR. TEACHERS ARE ROLE MODELS AND SHOULD ACT ACCORDINGLY AT ALL TIMES!
My point is that when a classroom gets out of control, when children act out, when teachers argue with students, and so forth, more often than not, this the result of teacher based decisions.
So again, why would a teacher allow his or her classroom to get to this point in the first place? BECAUSE IT IS THE RESULT OF A LONG LINE OF POOR DECISIONS ON THE PART OF THE TEACHER. There are many techniques to prevent a classroom from spiraling out of control, and a well-trained (and well supported) instructor will be able to identify these potential problem behaviors and address them before the students get out of control.
Listen to me, CONSISTENCY is the key. This is not a process of being mean or aggressive, but one of fairness and equal treatment. One can most certainly be kind and considerate as he or she manages his or her classroom behavior and functioning. Why would a teacher even need to yell, embarrass, or argue with his or her students? He or she already possesses the authority in his or her classroom(s). By behaving in this manner, the teacher is demonstrating that he or she believes that his or her role in the classroom is up for debate.
Come on, does a police officer really have to be aggressive while you wait for him or her to write you a speeding ticket, regardless of you demeanor? You both know what will happen if you violate the “recipe for behavior” in this situation. There will be consequences for that behavioral choice; therefore, more often than not, you won't.
In the same way, you should have a set of classroom rules and a set of progressive consequences for violating said rules. If a teacher changes the rules for one student “on the fly,” then the remaining students are going to expect the same treatment; and at this point, you have a classroom without rules and some students who will think that it is okay to “act out” because they know that they have a good change of having the rules (and consequences) renegotiated.
And so they should.
Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.
Now, I ask you again, whose fault is it if a classroom spirals out of control and children feel the freedom to be disruptive in class?
Unfortunately, I cannot answer this question because I have much to learn about teaching; I’ll get back to you after 10 years in the classroom.
Jackasses
2006-07-16 16:54:30
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answered by College Professor 2
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In the past I have been so foolish as to try reason them out of it, but it just escalates my own blood pressure and makes me almost shake with anger. To tell the truth, this will probably happen in the future, too.
After a while, though, I just have to quit answering them. I calmly start filling out a disciplinary referral on my clipboard and push the intercom button and ask an administrator to come get them if they don't stop while I am writing. The key here is to remember not to answer anything once you start writing, though if their voice gets calmer and their hostility turns to sincere questions (with only the very slightest edge), you might consider answering.
For those who calm down while you're writing and sink into sullenness, I recommend giving enough cooldown time that you can let them calm down and refocus--as much as they're going to, anyway. Do not interrupt your class to deal with them (beyond the referral), but wait for a break in which you may easily pull them aside while others are working.
I've heard that for every bad encounter with a child, you must make sure you have a good encounter with the child within the same class period. And so you pull the once-irate one aside to discuss the problem and appropriate means of conveying the problem and why using the appropriate means is important.
2006-07-16 11:54:03
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answered by Huerter0 3
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There was a great inservice we had on this issue. Here's a snapshot of what it said.
1. Never raise your voice. All it does is escalate the situation.
2. Write down was is happening and say it out loud. Example- "Okay Jimmy, I've asked you to sit down and you are refusing to do so. This is the third time I've asked. I'm filling out this office referral with this information. So you sure you don't want to take your seat? If you don't my hands are tied, I have to report this as defiance." What this allows is a way for you to step out of the situation- by having to write this down it forces you to break eye contact and maintain professionalism. Arguing with the student only serves to make you look silly in front of your students. Do it often enough, students will TRY to get in arguments with you just for the sake of watching you get angry and blow your top. Additionally, in most cases, when you do this, it allows the student to calm down and decide if this is something he or she really wants to do. You clearly define the consequences so that the student has to make the decision to misbehave. If they continue to do so, you have to follow through.
3. I personally try to take care of everything "in house". Other than incidents that are of immediate danger- fighting, weapons, etc., you should handle the delivering of consequences. Yes, you might have to stay after school or miss lunch for a few days. But once the students know you are willing to back up your threats, they will no longer test you. When you rely too much on your admins to handle your discipline, you take authority out of your hands.
Finally, building a report with your students goes a LONG way in stemming misbehavior. When you have a good relationship with your students, no matter how tough the students, they will work with you. Be fair, be honest, and be consistent. Do that, and you will prevent many misbehaviors.
2006-07-17 14:58:55
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answered by triton2toro 3
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Ammature advice.... First I would need to sense the intent. Is the anger real or is this a means to a hidden end. If you have established some knowledge of the childs/young adults character, you may even see it coming. If its ADDH then out of the class room and perhaps to the nurses station if you have one, but then would you have such a student in your class.... Is it a rite of passage for some group benifit, if yes, then ask what they need to get group approval and why, then there's a good chance the out burst would not have any immediate rational explanation, i.e. it was arranged. If it is transferred rage, then you are judged as impotent for their interest sake and valued as useless for their protection or correction of a perceived irrational obstacle against their interest, i.e. they are experiencing frustration or threat from another source. Very serious outside interference would frequently produce flight rather than fight responses
'To argue with' is a bit vague. What description or belief of yours do they find false or invalid. Perhaps they simply need a backgrounder.
2006-07-16 14:41:33
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answered by Psyengine 7
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Express a willingness to discuss the matter calmly after class. If the student cannot calm down, offer a little cooling off time outside the classroom. Just don't lock horns in a power struggle. You can't win and it's entirely too entertaining for the rest of the class, thus encouraging more of the same. Been there.
2006-07-16 11:58:36
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answered by Arrow 5
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Try not to let it become an argument by not participating. If telling the student to stop didn't calm them down (and it probably wouldn't) write a referral, call office for assistance if they are helpful. Call the parents. Ask another neighboring teacher for assistance. Don't smack them-jail isn't fun. Don't embarrass them- you might win the battle but you will lose the war.
Message to "college student" You have a LOT to learn. I'd like to see you back here when you have been teaching for 10 years and have a real idea of what public schools are like. You are in for the surprise of your life.
2006-07-16 17:57:13
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answered by wolfmusic 4
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The first thing is to get them calm. Probably let them finish. If too loud or too much of a distraction call the office and have them removed. Talk to them after class or at a time that is not convenient for the student (make them give up lunch time or something) and explain that it will never happen again.
2006-07-16 12:18:06
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answered by physandchemteach 7
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If it happens in the classroom, I send them out of the room for a couple of minutes to cool off. As for my own children, when they were small, I would stop the car, leave the store, or change the environment the best i could.
Mom and Teacher
2006-07-16 10:57:55
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answered by ArtTeacherinTX 1
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2016-11-02 04:26:20
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answered by Anonymous
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Let them say whatever they want to say and when theyre done, look them directly in the eye and in a very adult tone, ask them if they feel better. Usually after a tantrum, everyone feels foolish and needs a time out.
If this doesnt work, then yes a smack to the head should work.
2006-07-16 10:57:16
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answered by Anonymous
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