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2006-07-15 12:01:10 · 16 answers · asked by ramg 2 in Science & Mathematics Other - Science

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Wow, fantastic question. Rather than answer this, I will let you read the works of Rene Descartes. Look up his texts on the internet. Read them. He spent the last half of his life trying to prove that God exists mathematically.

Oh, and no... I will not debate... read them. I liked the read.

2006-07-15 16:19:57 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Are you aware of the limitations of your own question?

Science can only establish probabilities about how the universe works. It is clearly incapable of establishing how the universe came into being or proving the existence of something beyond the universe. It is also uniquely illsuited to explain the reason behind the universe.

Metaphysics, however, offer a high degree of assurance of the existent of some infinite cause of the finite universe (ponder the 2nd law of Thermodynamics and ask yourself who winds the clock).

No scientific "proof", but a metaphysical one. See the first several chapters of "Unshakable Foundations" by Norm Geisler and Pete Bocchino. At least then, you might be able to properly phrase an answerable question. Those unstated assumptions can indeed be tricky.

2006-07-15 19:11:08 · answer #2 · answered by TheSlayor 5 · 0 0

All reasoned arguments rely on axioms, i.e. things which we take to be true, but which are not amenable to proof. The most obvious example of an axiom is the validity of reason itself - It is trivially obvious that we can't use a reasoned argument to prove that reason is valid, because we have to presume that reason is valid in order to make any kind of reasoned argument.

I have another axiom, which I'm sure no sane person would dispute: That the order and complexity that we see around us in the natural universe, and particularly in the intricate structure and functions of living organisms, could not possibly just exist fully formed, with no cause, no origin, no precursor of any sort. I can't *prove* that this is the case, but it seems inconceivable to me that anyone would dispute it.

So, the logical consequence of accepting this axiom is that, for the very same reason, it's not possible that the order and complexity of the universe is sourced in an intelligent deity who designed and made the universe and *himself* exists fully formed with no cause, no origin, no precursor of any sort. I don't think any reasonable person would dispute the axiom presented here, and acceptance of the axiom leads to an indisputable proof of the non-existence of an intelligent creator.

Anyone who (against all reason) asserted that the order and complexity we see in the universe *could* indeed exist fully formed with no cause and no origin, in order thereby to save the concept of an uncaused intelligent designer, would find that they had invalidated said designer by making him redundant - i.e. if the order and complexity of the universe could just exist fully formed and uncaused then it would not need (in fact, could not possibly have) a designer to cause it to exist.

Either way, the concept of a creator is invalidated.

2006-07-15 19:56:38 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

there aint, god is a conception that men invented to explain nature or should I say the unknown. then came the religions; christianity, islam, bramahism, etc. that took control of the peolple. Christianity took advantage of the fall of rome predicting the end of the world at that moment and since then it prohibited all cientific knowledge apart of course of that of the ancients (greeks n romans). Thats why theres always been a war between religion and science. GOD DOESNT EXIST ITS JUST A WAY TO EXPLAIN THE UNEXPLAINABLE SOONER OR LATER WE WILL DISCOVER THE WHOLE ENCHILADA.

2006-07-15 19:14:43 · answer #4 · answered by damighty13 1 · 0 0

if you take a moment to try and comprehend the amazing complexity that is our universe, the intricacy of life, the vastness of the stars, the delicate balance of nature, how can you not see the hand of God? if you really think that all this, our entire universe, was up to chance, then you have also answered the meaning of life, why we are here. we. are. an. accident. oops! humans evolved. not because we were "destined" to rule the earth, but because some monkeys made some really good decisions millions of years ago.

when i look around me, at the complex plant and animal life, i see God everywhere. to think that we are here on this earth, in this universe, because of an accident is just to depressing. i have faith in God because i see his work in science, in nature.

so yes, if you see things like i do, there is proof.

2006-07-15 19:15:03 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No. God is supernatural. Science deals only with the study of the natural.

Basically, people used to think that lighting bolts were caused by angry gods. Science denies the possibility of supernatural interference as a way of trying to determine natural causes of events.

2006-07-15 19:06:58 · answer #6 · answered by insideoutsock 3 · 0 0

No, other wise it would be science not faith. God is fiction.

Ford M is rediculus. His statement in essence is "If there is something that is complex it must be god." That is how people thought in the Dark Ages. If everyone else thought in those terms we wouldn't have harnessed electricity or any other technology.

2006-07-15 19:26:40 · answer #7 · answered by satanorsanta 3 · 0 0

Proof that would take all of the fun out of the game.

2006-07-15 21:31:40 · answer #8 · answered by christine2550@sbcglobal.net 2 · 0 0

Science is hard pressed to prove a lot of things.A being powerful enough to create all existence is somewhat beyond us.

2006-07-15 19:28:47 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

read the book "The Science of God"

2006-07-15 19:23:24 · answer #10 · answered by buK00 2 · 0 0

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