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What is next we can not have buildings that are dedicated to worship? After all seeing a Catholic church may offend someone who is Baptist.

2006-07-15 09:41:42 · 24 answers · asked by Ethan M 5 in Politics & Government Politics

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Removing God or the mention of God from the public sphere does not serve to protect religious freedom. Quite the contrary. It is an attempt to supress religious freedom in general and Chritianity in particular. Our founding fathers erected the wall between church and state to protect one from the other. Modern day liberals are trying to change it so all that is left is a wall around the church.

It will not work ofcourse. There are too many of us to contain. There are too many of us willing to vote them out of power election after election.

2006-07-15 13:22:01 · answer #1 · answered by caesar x 3 · 0 6

There are religious groups who have a hard on particularly against Christianity. These days, it is mostly the Jewish element who is in front of the drive to remove Christian symbols from government edifices, using organizations like the ACLU to spearhead the movement.

The history of the war between Christians and Jewry is well documented in Eurpoean history and the anti-semitic hostility of the Catholic Church in particular.

The ACLU and its many Jewish backers are purportedly using the Establishment Clause of the US Constitution where it states "There shall be no State Established religion" as the basis for this movement. This clause was inserted by the framers of the Constitution in defiance of the King of England mandating that people could only worship in the Church of England - a Church established by the King of England (Henry VIII).

This establishment clause has been corrupted into the doctrine that the Constitution mandates a 'separation of Church and State'. These words do not exist in the Constitution, all that exists is the Establishment clause.

Because of the interpretation of the separation of Church and State doctrine by the US Supreme Court, the way has been paved to use that interpretation as the basis that Christian symbology on government property is a violation of this doctrine - although the government has nowhere mandated that Christianity is the religion of the nation - which WOULD violate the tenets of the Constitution.

So, to understand what is actually going on with this conflict, you have to be aware of nearly 2000 years of conflict between the Roman Church and the Jews, and how the Jews are now using (abusing) the law to get back at Christianity.

That's it in a nutshell. We won't go into a lengthy discussion on how many Jews are still communists and how that agenda is also well suited to destroying Christianity. That is another subject that deserves equal study.

2006-07-15 18:05:22 · answer #2 · answered by amartouk 3 · 0 0

Who said that removing the mention of God from all public view protects religious freedom?
I think the idea is that removing mention of God from publicly funded buildings (paid for with government money) protects religious freedom because some people might be scared to worship if their government prefers one religion over another (remember the Pilgrims, or the Huguenots?).
I don't know that anybody has argued that Churches should be forced to remove the mention of God from their premises.

2006-07-15 16:52:13 · answer #3 · answered by bistekoenighasteangst 2 · 0 0

It doesn't protect religious freedom, it is the protection of a Secular Government.

It is called the Establishment Clause in the First Amendment- Seperation of Church and State, that is why the government continues to remove religious articles from public buildings(government owned).

2006-07-15 16:47:12 · answer #4 · answered by SoF10 3 · 0 0

No one is trying to remove the mention of God from public view.

If you really believe strongly in something why do you feel the need to exaggerate? Isn't the twisting of facts about the same thing as lying? And isn't this supposed to be un-Christian?

My church is a huge building on Sherman Way in Van Nuys. We have the words God and Jesus on all four sides of the building, on the billboard out front and on the lighted sign listing times of services.

No one is trying to tell us we can't advertise our religion. They never have.

What some people object to is religion being forced upon them in non-religious, neutral settings.

An example: Say you hate football and don't want you children to be exposed to football without your knowledge. Would you find it offensive if your teachers in you public school were telling your children that football was all that mattered? That football was all-American and that anyone who didn't love football was un-American and going to hell?

True religion should be seeked out, not by force but by faith.

2006-07-15 17:03:27 · answer #5 · answered by Doc Watson 7 · 0 0

No one wants to remove religion from public view. People want to remove religion from public PROPERTY.

A dollar bill, for example. Who owns a dollar bill? The American people do, in reality. It's federal property, and the federal government is a government owned by the american people. That means that it is not okay to use it to promote the religion of a single group when that group does not represent the whole.

A catholic church, on the other hand, is not public property. It's owned by the catholic church, not by the people of the united states of america.

2006-07-15 16:48:09 · answer #6 · answered by extton 5 · 0 0

What? who is removing the mention of God from all public view?

I drive down the street and see advertisements from churches, temples, strip clubs. It's all equal opportunity out there.

Unless you are of course misrepresenting the issue of church and state separation, which is entirely different. The founding documents of this country mention god, but that of course does not justify a mob rule Christian mentality.

2006-07-15 16:50:00 · answer #7 · answered by buzzfeedbrenny 5 · 0 0

I think of it as separation to save time. If we all worship different idols imagine this:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, Goddess, Buddha, Mary, Skanda, Allah, Confucious, Dao, Satan, (insert religious idol worshipped here) indivisible, with liberty and justice for ALL."

WHEW! That would be a mouthful! Seriously though, not everyone worships God. It's not fair. It contradicts the last line of the pledge itself. I'm happy being one nation indivisible along side my fellow man or woman no matter what they worship.

2006-07-15 17:06:29 · answer #8 · answered by Brooke 3 · 0 0

It is a very narrow (and I believe wrong) interpretation of the issue related to the separation of church and state. I think the courts have gone way overboard to apply this to way to many situations. What happen to - The Majority Rules? There may have been some legitimate ruling, but they have gotten out of hand. We are - and will be one nation under God.

2006-07-15 16:59:05 · answer #9 · answered by Coach D. 4 · 0 0

Really I just know that we will always have church's with the name of that church in CAPITALIZED LETTERING the name and other small quotes from the Bible. So, I just try not to worry about the schools because its just that, a school or any other business, its just that; not church. I stay neutral because a sign is not worth dying for the cause really. Just look how far some religions take it to killing other people!

2006-07-15 16:51:29 · answer #10 · answered by Slick1 3 · 0 0

Have you read the constitution? Don't think so.
Yes, we do have freedom of religion. You can worship who ever you want on your own personal time, in your house or your church.
The government itself cannot do that. Under the constitution there has to be a separation of church and state. Read all of the first amendment.

2006-07-15 16:57:30 · answer #11 · answered by Ren 3 · 0 0

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