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Can feminism be successfull in a society where men are politicaly incorrect? Can feminism prosper if men are unapologetic of their nature and thoughts? Can feminsm prosper if men decide to be who they are without needing justification?

2006-07-15 04:17:50 · 8 answers · asked by man_id_unknown 4 in Politics & Government Other - Politics & Government

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no, and thats exactly how men should be. Feminism is not about quality, they have that already. Its about domination, and we need to stand strongly against it. "For men, thier rights and nothing more, for us, our rights and nothing less" -Betty Friedan, one of the cornerstones of thier movement, also advocates men being used only for breedint stock.

2006-07-15 04:21:18 · answer #1 · answered by wrf3k 5 · 2 0

The men who ridicule women are not being their true selves. They are frightened of women having as much power as they have. This is not because men are innately evil, but because they have been conditioned to do this. Little boys don't start off that way. Even in America where the conditioning starts early, they play with little girls until they are ridiculed out of it by the society they live in. So men not only hurt women when they are what you call "politically incorrect" (and I call plain rude!) they hurt themselves. This is encouraged by the media, who love conflict because it sells papers etc. Men don't need to be apologetic for being men - strong, supportive, protective,doing manly thingsand having fun with their mates/buddies. Feminism will prosper if men reclaim their natural natures and refuse to be brainwashed into abusing women. Likewise women who stridently accuse men of oppressing them, miss the point , men have been used to keep women down because it suited society. It isn't useful anymore (if it ever really was) and men don't need it, anymore than women do. Men for all their perceived power, are sacrificed in wars by our leaders, and feeding them the idea that they're superior to women keeps them from noticing how disadvantaged they are. (Not disadvantaged by women however, but by the structures that have been built by our rulers.) So men and women have been hurt and should get together to remedy the situation, not fall into the error of blaming each other. Feminism isn't a movement against men, though I know that's the way some women go about it. It's for the liberation from stereotyped roles for women. This will be good for men too, because they will eventually be able to do things they've been discouraged from.:-)

2006-07-15 11:55:29 · answer #2 · answered by survivor 5 · 0 0

Sounds like an opinion question....

In order: Probably, yeah; no; no; no.
This is assuming that man, in general, has an inherent desire to bring down womankind and keep her "in her place"; which isn't likely because 1) some of the first women's rights advocates (in certian areas, like China) were men. 2) Not EVERY guy wants a girl that blindly follows his orders/dictates like an obedient housewife; I know lots of couples in which both spouses work, and it doesn't bother either one. And often in a family, the mom is much more intimidating than the dad. (I know. Mine was. Eeek.) Also she has more say in what goes on in the house. 3) Most men prob. wouldn't care less if a woman joined them in a construction job or something like that, as long as she can pull her own weight. 4) Most men who cop a "macho" image do it not cause they're guys, but cause they're insecure idiots who think they have something to prove.

Personally, I think the battle of the sexes, especially when feminism is involved, is way overrated. Most jobs today are open to women- the small minority of jobs (like combat duty) are closed to women for a reason. Women have proved their efficiency and capability in everything from business to manual labor to sports. We enjoy more positions of authority than 50 years ago. So I'm not sure exactly why we need more feminism in America. And I dont' think we can do women any help by putting down men, either.
Oh, and fyi, I'm a girl.

2006-07-15 11:45:00 · answer #3 · answered by ATWolf 5 · 0 0

I basically agree with all the above points, especially the note about a double standard. It seems to me that women don't want true equality. What they really want is equality on areas where it is advantageous to them like hiring, salary, marital status, and so on. When it comes to other things they demand "respect" for being a woman. The two come to a head when a female suddenly places herself into a predominantly male scenario and all of the sudden expects the men (the majority) to all change their ways for her since she now is amongst them. It seems unfair to the men, in my eyes, that they are all expected to change how they work or act at work for one person who butted her way into their world. The women should have the sense to see that she asked to be there, and if she doesn't like how it is, it's her problem, not theirs.
Think I'm wrong? Take the opposite example. Say a man somehow gets a job at an office or store dominated by female employees and when he gets there, he starts to want everyone to tell dirty jokes with him or go out for beers after work on Friday. The guy wouldn't stand a chance. He'd be fired for sexual harrasment or something within a week. Yet a female coming in to this type of world is granted full rights to emasculate all the men currently happily working there.
Same goes for stupid, simple, everyday things too. How many times have you been in the bathroom at a large venue like baseball or a concert and you see heels under the stall door or some girl just barges in giggling with her friends while you're doing your business at the urinal? It's become so commonplace that many men don't even glance anymore. But you try that in the ladies room (I've been tempted at ball games because there are alway so fewer women in attendance there is never a line) and you'll be arrested in under a minute. Sounds small, I know, but it's ridiculous.

2006-07-15 11:45:22 · answer #4 · answered by obviously_you'renotagolfer 5 · 0 0

Of course it can. Feminism has nothing to do with Men. It's about Women and their empowerment. Feminism is about equality - it's not about women over men. There's no need for men to be insecure about women or feminism.

Smart men recognize that, and embrace it. Why would a man want an inferior partner anyway? Men and women are a team - and when they form a partnership it can only benefit both (and benefit the team). A team is only as good as it's weakest link - why would you want to hold one of your team members back? It will only keep you from succeeding.

2006-07-15 11:38:09 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think that feminism in some ways has gone too far, mostly in the sense of forcing the women out of their homes to go to work, by shaming the happy homemakers. Yes, some women love to be able to go out and "have it all", while some women are very focused on their careers: More power to them I say. But it was a shame that some women who were homemakers were made to be ashamed of not wanting more in life for themselves and I feel that is wrong.

As far as the men is concerned, feminism came to be in the form of an adversarial movement, rather than one who would simply educate men. Yes, this was (and still is, don't kid yourselves) a man's world, but my grandmother used to say, "You catch more flies with honey, rather than with vinegar", and not take a man's right to be a man.

With that said, there have been a lot of benefits thanks to the feminist movement. Women don't have to be so depend on men anymore. We can vote, we can work, we can have our own line of credit, and live quite independently, and it is a shame that women under 30 don't fully appreciate what they have, but instead look at feminism as something evil, instead of realizing that they have what they have because their mothers, grandmothers and greatgrandmothers fought for it.

Now we need to aproach society from a Mars/Venus approach, let men be who they are, and let women be who they are, and educate them both into understanding each other and be more willing to compromise to what works in their relationship, and putting powerstruggles aside. If one of them isn't willing to compromise, then that person isn't right for you in the first place.

2006-07-15 11:29:24 · answer #6 · answered by imagineworldwide 4 · 0 0

Yes on all counts. As a man, All I ask is that there not be a double standard about it all. equal is equal. If you want the wage, respect, jobs, then buy dinner half the time too.

2006-07-15 11:23:25 · answer #7 · answered by Ricky J. 6 · 0 0

I think feminism is powered by MEGA-ADE!! Is it in you?

TFTP

2006-07-15 11:22:00 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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