You dont know anything about Putin or Russia, and Bush could care less about the NYT,because he knows the rest of us dont, You dont like Bush who cares hes in the whitehouse and Liberals dont have any house, but they still think Americans want them to save the country,
2006-07-15 01:50:45
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answered by mansker1965 2
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Your political ignorance is indeed slight.
All political leaders hug or otherwise great eachother in a friendly manner, even when they disagree. You should be less selective in your memory. It's called basic political courtesy and you would turn it into a character flaw.
Putin and Bush disagree, but they're world leaders. They aren't some fool trying to second guess two of the best informed people in the world.
Of course you're going to be Anti-Bush. You're Pro-Islam. You attack Christianity. You support possible treason (NY Times may have, yet to be tried so I suspend judgement, material aid to our enemies, look up the definition) and because President Bush has a problem with having our military and intelligence secrets published, he's bad. That's just silly.
You deride the troops efforts in Iraq and the democracy the people there are forming. It's clear you side with Islamic dictatorship.
I'm actually not sure you are wrong. But you sure aren't on OUR side. You've identified yourself quite well.
You may have free speech and be able to use our freedoms against us, but we have free speech as well and will answer you. You'll find that free societies are harder to undermine than dictatorships where people are arrested when they speak against the government. Our people can even be seditious during a time of war and not fear arrest.
Yet, we thrive. Your attempts to undermine us are useless, but have not gone unnoticed.
Rigormortis contacted me on IM. He was rather put out and felt I had been very disrespectful His assumption of respect owed ahead of time is common amongst people who expect to have their opinions go unchallenged even in a forum designed for it.
I find it interesting that my first comment about his political knowledge, which was actually a compliment, was regarded as an insult! Somewhat amazing! So sensitive to criticism that they they have to attack and miss things like that! Read again, public, and tell me how insulting I was when I said, "Your political ignorance is indeed slight."
His ignorance is slight. Ah, well, some people don't want compliments, they want your silence. I don't. Let's see what his next question is... .
Here is the rest of rigor mortis' commentary on my post, copied complete and unedited, which is always appropriate for those of honor and ethics, as well as my response to him (belatedly):
rigormortis_79: nice to catch u online... well, u called me pro-islamic and politically ignorant... well, just cause apparently u're older than me and have children, i'll try not to disrespect u as u did....
rigormortis_79: the newspapers commented on bush's hug to putin
rigormortis_79: so who's ignorant now about courtesyes??
rigormortis_79: presidents shake hands, but when bush keep his hands on putin's shoulder, this is funny
rigormortis_79: and u tried stupidly to analyse me rather than answering the question
rigormortis_79: well... i hope when your child's old enough, someone from bush's family or similar send him/her to a war, and then let's see your view
rigormortis_79: have a nice evening
mckenziecalhoun: Hi, just got up.
mckenziecalhoun: The news often is driven by political nonsense as well. Clinton got the same treatement, including commentary on who he hugged. You could do a thesis paper on it, it's so common.
mckenziecalhoun: Actually, I never called you a single name. I called your behavior what it was, but not you. Go back and read it.
mckenziecalhoun: I would be proud to have my daughter be in the military. Some of us still have backbones and aren't cowardly.
mckenziecalhoun: Are you actually saying I have no right to comment on your behavior? Must not realize Yahoo! Answers is based in the United States. Free speech here. And we answer sedition.
mckenziecalhoun: Oh, and the symbol with the red minus sign means I'm NOT online, but glad to talk to you. Please feel free to contact me any time. Criticism isn't something I fear, or feel a need to call "disrespect". Societies that consider criticism to equal "disrespect" are far more repressive and dictatorial than those which recognize sedition, but also consider it free speech.
mckenziecalhoun: I recognize that you would prefer to deal with the issue line by line, and thus IM contact appealed to you. Tomorrow I'm busy, but Monday, California time I'll be around. It's clear you care about what you say, which means to me that you would like to be correct about things. My only question is do you want to be correct, or APPEAR correct and thus defend the indefensible? If you can face criticism and answer it in the vein it is offered, you have a chance to grow (all such advice, obviously, applies to myself and others as well. Silly the man that doesn't see that, and I don't see myself as embracing "nonsense" hoarding as a way of life.
mckenziecalhoun: Teach me. I welcome it. If you have an ear for it, you might learn something as well. Some of my best friends utterly disagree with me.
mckenziecalhoun: We are people first. Not positions. It's our commonalities that make civilities, such as not calling each other names (which we haven't thus far), possible
mckenziecalhoun: Oh, and none of my views is above question or labelling. it isn't respect to be deceptive about what you think about someone's statements in a forum DESIGNED to be commented on. You are in the wrong place (Yahoo! Answers) if you don't expect that kind of commentary. I welcome it.
mckenziecalhoun: Can you post me the news commentary? There is an edit button on the questions (assuming you haven't closed it), and I have this strange willingness to discover the truth and change my mind about things. It's simply that I've heard the same nonsense about hugs, kisses and handshakes bandied about when President Clinton was in office and my father, a former Federal Agent, would often comment on the silliness of the press' attempts to second guess what it all meant, like people seeing smoke and trying to determine what the smoke signals meant when it was just a barbacue.
mckenziecalhoun: I do find that you talk about not disrespecting but you wish the worst fate you can think of on my daughter! lol. I'm not offended, and I'm not laughing at you, but you can always know that someone who uses the word disrespect in a first sentence is going to dish out a lot of it in the following sentences. Not really an issue, but you aren't being very aware of your own statements of intent. Fortunately, I am proud of my country, my government, and my Presidents (all of them). I dissent, disagree, and sometimes protest, but never would I support sedition. Do you? Are you pro-Islamic? Whose side are you on? I'll be happy to post your answer, and even an apology if you state that you aren't regarding anything I was actually wrong about. Depending on what they say about the "smoke signal" body language, I might comment favorablly about that as well.
That's the end of the IM.
rigormortis may be in the wrong place if he can dish it out like this but cannot take it. We welcome you to Yahoo! Answers and hope you stay. But you can't expect to have an unapposed platform in a public forum. We have thing about even intellectual dictatorships here in the United States (where Yahoo! is based), and will continue the annoying habit of speaking up, AS I HOPE YOU DO! HOORAY FOR FREE SPEECH! Glad we have people brave enough to defend it for us. Hope my daughter has more courage than I do. I turned in my card, but never enlisted. I would be proud, and frightened, to have my daughter become a military woman.
I won't share her real name here, but it is an actual word, one that the military and all people of Patriotic mein treasure. That's how important this country is to us.
2006-07-15 01:04:27
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answer #8
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answered by mckenziecalhoun 7
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