I have a few male friends who are gay. They don't look or act gay, they act totaly nomal, (of course gay IS normal, but I mean they act, and look streight) yet they can't seem to find good jobs, or get promotions. And the reason they give is, because they are "gay"!!Now I know for a fact they never talk about it at work, or act in a manner that would even suggest they are gay. So why do they use it as an excuse? as if someone could tell they were gay by just looking at them, and refuse to give them a job? I've know these men for years, and love them dearly, but I'm tired of the job saga's and complaints afterward. I think they just don't want to work. What do you think?
2006-07-14
01:14:33
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Judith O
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Society & Culture
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I should have said, why can't MY gay friends find good jobs!!! I didn't mean it to stand for all gays
2006-07-14
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Perhaps your particular friends are indeed hiding behind an excuse (which they may or may not know they're doing). Or perhaps they've climbed ladders before, only to get thrown on the ground when they do finally come out at work. Or maybe they never do, but because they can't talk about their personal life, they get passed over for promotion because they're not seen as individuals. Those are my guesses.
2006-07-15 03:51:12
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answered by Atropis 5
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Uh. hello? the question should probably be why can't my gay friends find good jobs. Most gays statistically have a higher education and job rating, it just is what it is. That said, some may not be within the higher end range for reasons of education, level of experience, age etc. Although as some here have pointed out, location may also play a part as well as their own performance. I live in Canada, I am out a work (have pic of my bf on my desk) and I work with the military, so you can imagine that for me being fired for being gay is a non starter. Finally, your friends using the "oh I was fired for being gay" only works if they really were, that is to say, if you're hearing it every time they lose a job, either they are more obvious than you think, or they just want an excuse, either way tell them to shut up and get on with life 'cause it ain't fair anyway.
2006-07-14 04:22:48
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answered by Anonymous
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I'm gay and I have a great job. Through my career I only had one bad job and I dumped it, having absolutely zero to do with my sexuality.
Some gay guys (only some, and maybe women too) get stuck on GAY. That is to say everything about their lives is gay. This means that being at a specific bar party is more important than working overtime on the job. Or it means "hooking up" might mean that you don't get home in time to get showered and off to work on time. It can mean a whole lot of things where the gay experience takes a front seat while the other world things take a back seat. This kind of stuff can cost you a job.
Yes, it is true that in most locations in the US, you can be fired just for being gay. But so many employers have great respect for their gay employees, there are great jobs out here.
2006-07-14 05:14:57
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answered by michael941260 5
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Your friends are lazy, there issue has nothing to do with being gay. They just convince themselves of that, so they don't have to feel bad when they don't get a good job, or get a promotion. I am openly gay, and i have a great job, I also have a great work ethic, which most people do not. Your friends are just like everyone else now a days looking for some reason besides themselves to blame for everything wrong with there lives. I think they don't want to work, or if they do they want a job where they can get away with whatever they want, which generally doesn't turn out to be a good job. I have a friend like that, we we're actually talking the other day and she said her friend came into work and she was talking to him and her boss came up and told her to go help some customers, and she looked at me like i was supposed to say what?, and she then said, thats bullshit i should have ten mins to talk to my friends when they come in to see me. My response was no honey thats why they give you a break, when you are at work, what else are you expected to do but work. People just never learned self motivation. You should tell your friends to shut up or do something about it.
2006-07-15 08:52:56
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answered by Advice Whore 1
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Its hard to answer your question because you do not qualify where these people live and what the job market is like. The job market of Nowheresville, Arizona is going to be different than New York City. Also, their age is important. While I have been marginalized in the work force because of my sexuality-I have worked very hard to make myself employable above and beyond sexuality.
I dont know about you but most of the gay men I know are successful business people, entertainers, scientists, and educators.
Being gayy doesn't mean that you can't work and determine your own success-but you need to tell us more about the situation.
2006-07-14 02:10:36
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answered by John Smith 3
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I have a very good job, and know many other gay people here at work who have upper management jobs. In fact, there is a recent article/book making the rounds about how being gay is a tremendous asset in business, being more intuitive and more open to the feelings of others, less discriminatory, etc.
Some people will use any excuse to cover up their lack of motivation or skills.
2006-07-14 04:09:31
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answered by Anonymous
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All the gay guys I know have the best jobs and get promoted all the time. But I do live in the Southwest were being gay is no big deal. Actually it is preferred because they think gay people have more time and less family constrictions to impede in their success and that of the company.
2006-07-14 01:20:33
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answered by jen 4
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Your way off base there, maximum chef's are married and characteristic households. the most usual chef's in the international are men and that i know maximum of them are immediately. Many own their own places and the different halves and little ones even as their the right age help run them. particular there are some gays in just about each occupation in the international.
2016-11-02 01:16:41
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answered by Anonymous
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I am Gay.
I love my job.
I love the pay I get.
I love the benefits.
I love my time off.
Qualification for a job is qualification for a job.
I've known many Gays to waste their college years floating along, changing their major, being undecided 5th year seniors, and amounting to nothing worth much. At the same time, I've known many to advance very well.
2006-07-14 04:28:17
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answered by My Big Bear Ron 6
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I think that they will find a job, but they can't just think they're gonna get a job. They have to continuously job hunt and rejection is part of it. I'm gay and I work in a multi million dollar real estate firm.
2006-07-14 07:20:36
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answered by Anonymous
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