Evolutionists! How did male and female begin?

Question

If we came from the sea by just being, then how is it we need a male and female to reproduce? If creatures just came from creatures then how did they split into male and female? How did that happen?

Like if a one celled animal came out of the sea, was it a male cell? Did it need a female cell to make another thing? At what point did these things decide they could not reproduce themselves? If they couldn't reproduce themselves then how did they come into being? If they could reproduce themselves then whe3n and how did that change to two things (male and female) to reproduce?

Bet I get called alot of names but no serious coherent answers.

Answer 1

if you want serious coherent answer, i am ready to give it to you. if you have pre-decided that any answers would not be regarded as koherent, that you dont actually want to learn on the origin of sexuality and genders, then you dont need to read further. There are plenty of data on the evolution of sexuality, so I BET you decided not to read any of it so far. At the time of internet, you can, by yourself, order plenty of biology textbooks and read them all.
So i will give you just very short info on what you aked. so firstly there was no single celled organism that came out of sea. Who told you this? So we stay with the single celled life and we also stay still in the sea, ok? so there are microscopic unicellular organism that can reproduce asexually , but within the same species, two forms appear, that differ by a stretch of DNA strand that the other doesnt have. this can also be linked to some property of theirs (exactly like men and women are two different types of organism inside one species, but there were no chromosomes, no eukaryotic cells, so you cannot observe the exactly same genetics as in human sexuality). but the principle is the same - exchange of genetic material between cells and one species actually splitting into two (or more) subvariants depending on slight difference in the genetics. so they did not stop reproducing asexually, but the "sex"-related DNA and treats could spread through the population, making part of the population different from the rest. this was of course massively important for the future. You see at microscopic level, you cant find and expect anything more. and be sure that for long long time sexual reproduction existed together with asexual. organisms that already couldnt reproduce asexually were LONG way far from those little ones that crawled from the sea! get it!

Another question is the origin of sex chromosomes itself- but that is something for longer story and indeed i am not sure whether
you wish even to read it.

I suggest you find and read something about bacteria and their fertility plasmids or sex plasmids and you get the idea what sex is at unicellular, non-eukaryotics level - google this and if you have questions, email me, OK. you see my mother language is not English and it has been some time since i was at college, so i cannot give you - off the top of my head -English booktitles that you can start with, but i hope that somebody else will, also when i come home to my parents place where my textbook library is, i will check it to advice you about some easy to read book on this - that is IF YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO LEARN - thats what i would like to know first place....

btw Did you realize that Darwin himself was a devoted Christian and never felt otherwise.....how is this explained by creationists?

Answer 2

Many animals do not require male and female to reproduce, particularly organisms of relatively simple construction. Bacteria, yeasts, and hydras, for example can all reproduce by asexual methods. The problem with asexual reproduction, though, is that it only produces copies. When a hydra generates a bud that becomes a new organism, for example, the "daughter" hydra is a clone of the "mother" hydra that produced it. That's all well and good, but copies do not have the ability to change and adapt over successive generations. A population of organisms is much better off if it can swap genes among its members. In such a situation, some of the offspring will have a mix of traits that allow them to be better at survivng in their environment. These offspring will go on to reproduce, and those beneficial traits are inherited by the next generation.

What we call "male and female" is fundamentally just a specialized means of sharing genetic information, at least as far as reproduction is concerned. Organisms that reproduce asexually are usually also capable of sexual reproduction, but they lack gender. Bacteria that reproduce sexually, for example, do not have a permanent gender. One of them (determined by varous chemical signals) will extend a tube to another. They'll pass bits of DNA called plasmids back and forth and incorporate the new genes into their own genomes, then divide by mitosis. This, by the way, is how populations of bacteria develop drug resistance. Complicated organisms like humans, however, have a permanent gender to make the process more efficient and more reliable.

So, in answer to your question, organisms did not "decide" that sexual reproduction was better than asexual reproduction. The greater survival rate of organisms produced by sexual reproduction (and therefore capable of doing it, themselves) is what "decided" the matter. This differential in survival rate has a more common name - natural selection, or survival of the fittest. A fellow by the name of Charles Darwin came up with that. Remember him?

Answer 3

There's no explaining such a thing to a brick-walled mind such as you possess... you might try to seriously read a book or two on biology, especially microbiology; but, you'd need to bring yourself to read a couple books about the evolution of life and of the species. The 'critters' as you described them, didn't just crawl out of the sea and "decide" anything for themselves. And didn't just 'very simply' at all come into being... but why waste each others time over the matter? You'll accept and/or deny as your one little black book 'tells you' after a hundred mistranslations. Even if accurately translated for modern understanding (impossible), it's still a book of tales and fables. How do so many otherwise intelligent people miss that point? Listen to what you're reading sometime... don't merely mimic the words like a parrot. An old man of what age (?) built a wooden ark in his backyard and gathered up mated pairs of every species of animal on the earth and stored adequate food for all, his family and his pets. THAT was one hell of a boat!!! Wait, how many cubits were its dimensions? It was a puny container for all as described as to have inhabited it for that storm of 40 days, etc.... and what fun that family had repopulating the earth, eh? Brother and sister, father and daughter, mother and son... what a gene pool we've been created from! It's a wonder any of us are capable of speech and thought process.

No coherent answers, you say? What is it you don't understand in what I've texted? I don't like your belief and acceptance that we're all children of ancestral incest... nope, not me, mister. I'll buy into the stories of a Tooth Faerie and Santa Claus before I accept your collected works of storytellers of ancient times. The Iliad and The Odyssey by Homer are far better reading and much more believable!

Have a good afterlife... i hope you don't just 'wake up' dead with no one to greet you and nowhere to go. Even Jesus cried out in disbelief and pain, asking why his daddy had forsaken him as he hung there dying on that cross. And WHO turned him over to his government as a false prophet? His own people... you guys. Don't tell me it was the Jews... who the hell are the christians, then? Where do YOU come into the story about a Jew helping his own people out during hard times?

Nevermind, the story is simply too twisted and perverse anyway. Again, I wish you well... and am happy that you find comfort in your beliefs. You're not alone in that.

Answer 4

adaptive asexual reproductive systems such as those still found in multiple types of frogs & reptiles.

They didnt begin with sexual genotypes like you are thinking.

Answer 5

In is deathbed, Darwin was said to say something like "Forgive me if I'm wrong." I just wanna know how others answer this question...

Answer 6

What everyone else said. Read a biology textbook.