what is the problem with lebanon for isrel?

Question

If isrel has a problem with Hezbullah, why should it strike civilians of lebanon. Actually what is this 60 years old problem. Please explain or give me some internet site where I can get information on that.

Answer 1

The problem is, they are scared monkeys and they are demonstrating this by being vicious murderers. I feel really sorry for them. I have met some really fine Israeli people.

Yes but its a lot more complicated than that. The 60 year old problem is the existence of the State of Israel. Israel in its current incarnation was brought about by the actions of a Zionist terrorist organisation in the 1930s and 1940s who bombed Arab and British targets in Palestine (as it all was then) in order to force their will of a new Israel where Jews could live as the majority. Ok so its based on a religionist exclusivist philosophy. Most people forget that before the US interfered in Iran and installed the SHAH in the late 1950s, Iran possessed of the worlds largest Jewish communities who had lived there much more safely for centuries than in any European, Christian country. It was a similar story with the Jews of Baghdad, Iraq before US support of Saddam Hussein in the early 1970s. People forget that the US armed Saddam to attack Iran and only turned against him when he invaded Kuwait which was originally part of Iraq before being spilt off by the US and the UK in the 1950s and given to a friendly businessman who proclaimed himself Sheik.

There are also certain branches of Judaism who do not believe that Israel should exist yet due to their interpretation of scriptures
and prophecies, some live in Israel, but many more live in other countries. They say Israel's time is yet to come. It is also compliicated by the fact that 90% of Jews are ethnically Turkic (Khazari/Ashkenazic) who are descended from the nation of Khazar which existed in part of what is now Russia 1000 years ago, converting to Judaism then as a political convenience. This is the Jewish race that Hitler wanted to wipe out in WW2 because the had a long history of dominating Germanic people in Eastern Europe for centuries. Hitler himself was born in Austria-Hungary where Germans were a working class ethnic minority and Khazari Jews were the monied business class. His prejudices are at least partly responsible for the current mess in the Middle East but this is also complicated by the complicity of Zionist bankers in funding Nazi Germany throught Swiss Banks to further the goal of a creation of a Zionist Israel. Given that the Western European Jews were, in the main, "true" Jews from the original surviving stock, what did they care if their Eastern European counterparts were murdered? What does it matter to them now if these people are destroyed? Think about it. The "false" Israel is gone and the "true" Israel's time will come.

Its really a very long and convoluted story dating back to AD70 when the Jews were massacred by Rome and expelled from Israel and Judeah. It cannot be solved until Jews/Israelis feel safe and are removed from the menu of other groups. Unfortunately their own collective actions as a nation as demonstrated by their huge reaction to the loss of 3 soldiers to captivity over the last month, one in Gaza and 2 into Lebanon makes it hard to negotiate a peace. Their closest allies are the USA and wait for it .... TURKEY!!!!! a Muslim country. Go figure. They used to be pretty close to South Africa in Apartheid days which demonstrates the sort of philosophy which informs mainstream Israel. But also let us not forget that there are over 1 million Israeli Arabs (Palestinians) living in Israel proper who are allowed to vote, stand for Knesset (parliament) &c. The problem for Israelis is that they don't want to be a minority in their "own" country as they rightly surmise that minorites are susceptible to abuse, so they feel the need to strongly defend themselves from any attack. But the 60 year old problem started like this...

In 1948 the UN partitioned Palestine into Arab and Jewish Areas, each group was assigned 3 areas based on majority inhabitants at the time. Jews had been moving into Palestine for many years even before Htiler came to power in Europe and had by 1948 become a sizeable community. The areas assigned to both groups were discontiguous, meaning that no Jewish or Arab area joined to each other, creating in effect six mini countries. The British left Palestine after losing UN mandate. At the day of partition one of two things occurred depending on who you wish to
believe...One story is that the Israeli areas were immediately invaded from surrounding Arab countries determined to wipe them off the map. The other side of the story is that the Israelis were already heavily armed and began a concerted push to connect their three areas into one, defendable contiguous nation, which resulted in the intervention of neighbouring countries on behalf of the mostly unarmed Palestinian population.

There were a number of factors at play here, Christian guilt for the European persecution of Jews lead to unwavering US support for Israel in the almost 60 years since, Arab toleration of Jews has become outright hostility in the face of Israeli treatment and persecution of Palestinians (who are Arabs), Most Palestinians now live in either Jordan or Lebanon and even those born in those two countries are still classed as refugees and live in refugee camps.

The Israelis have done to the Palestinians what Htiler, Russia, Rome and other European nations have done to them for centuries and, by attacking the Lebanon as a general blanket attack are really taking out their fear on the ones who aren't doing it to them. If the neighbours somehow manage to wipe out Israel, the Israelis thwmselves will also be to blame for their own demise by their actions. But I'm not saying they should be wiped out, they deserve to live as we all deserve to live and part of the solution is also allowing the Palestinians to have a decent living and life rather than their current marginalisation.

But in my country from my tribal elders, we were given a saying...
he who is murdered is the one to blame for his murder because he should have known better than to put himself in the position where he was murdered. This comes froma culture where murder was virtually unknown and fights were stopped when first blood was drawn. The person who bleed was to blame and was not allowed to seek revenge. Even today in my home area, murder is fairly rare and although fights can happen, grudges are not kept or encouraged. But it is after all a different time and different cultures have different conditions.

I could go on and on. There was a movie shown on TV in my country twice about two years ago. I saw it both times. It was made in Israel by an Israeli director in the 1960s, its black and white (i.e. not colour). I saw it both times it blew me away. It was made before the1967 Israeli-Arab war. It was in three languages, English, Hebrew and Arabic and was about the events of 1948. What blew me away the most was its honesty and the fact that even though it was made by an Israeli, it clearly portrayed the Zionists as the aggressors in 1948. They believed they were fighting for cultural and religious survival (this was only 3 years after liberation from Hitler's death camps) but they attacked the people who had been very accommodating toward them (Palestinians)...this is in the movie remember... and the creation of the State of Israel and the expulsion of the Arabs was the start of US and Israeli interference in the Arab world. Look at a map. Israel cuts off one side of the Arab world from the other. The ZIonists have imposed a nation right in the best real estate in the entire region and defeated any aspirations for a contiguous united Arab community.

I hope this explains a little bit of the problem for you. I have only scratched the surface in spite of this lengthy answer.

Good Health to you

and a message to all Arabs and Israelis... please stop hating and killing each other, we are all brothers and sisters and these actions are making life less enjoyable for all of us. Please learn to talk. To be at war and to commit violence is the easy road and is the way of fear and cowardice. The road of peace is long and hard, to live in peace is harder than killing and dying in war.

Answer 2

tm_tech32 is wrong in correlating Hezbullah with Al Qaeda. AQ is a terrorist organization, their intentions are very clear: destruction. Hezbullah is an Islamic group with a civilian branch for humanitarian purposes, and a militant branch for guerilla operations in defense of Lebanon.

The civilian part runs hospitals and schools, brings food and clean water to impoverished villages, etc. Both parts of the organization have publicly denounced acts of international terrorism, including the 9/11 attacks. The militant branch, called the Islamic Resistance, frowns on the suicide bombings that are conducted regularly by Hamas (ironically, this is the group ignorant people most often compare them to).

That's not to say that they have not been involved in acts that we would consider terrorism, but these are primarily in the realm of kidnappings (as in the case of those two Israeli soldiers). But there is no evidence linking them to the bombing the US Embassy in Beirut, for example. Most of their direct experience with Israel goes back to when Israel decided to up and move their border into southern Lebanon (the UN made them change it back after a few years). Personally, I wouldn't call it terrorism when one party kidnaps the military personnel of their enemy for the purpose of a prisoner exchange... they didn't threaten to kill the soldiers, they just wanted to get some of their men back. Bear in mind that the people of southern Lebanon love these guys... these were the people on the ground rebuilding the homes that Israel destroyed.

Hezbullah does have close ties to Iran, and somewhat Syria (but to a lesser extent), but not to carry out terrorism. Iran helped create and organize Hezbullah strategically in the most Western Arab state to help spread the Islamic Revolution and fight liberalism. They do not conduct any acts of violence against their own citizens to bring this goal to fruition. So technically Hezbullah is just another political party in Lebanon... a party in a country that is 40% Christian. From what I hear, they're becoming more popular thanks to our meddling in middle eastern affairs.

Answer 3

Lets play a word substitution game.
"If isrel has a problem with Hezbullah, why should it strike civilians of lebanon. Actually what is this 60 years old problem. Please explain or give me some internet site where I can get information on that."

"If America has a problem with Al-Qaeda, why should it strike civilians of Afghanistan. Actually what is this 30 years old problem. Please explain or give me some internet site where I can get information on that."

Answer 4

Terrorism. Hezbullah must be driven into hell, along with PA's Humas. These group have vowed that there can be no peace with Israel. They kill Civilians. Civilains in Lebanon who support Terrorism in their families, homes, neighborhoods, cities, and government, sometimes get killed.

Answer 5

Iran is the trouble in Lebanon
Iran sends 100 million dollars to Hezbollah annually
as we confront Iran they tell Hezbollah to attack Israel to distract the world

Answer 6

Rules of engagement for the Israeli soldiers, include systematic feeding of age-old hatred to their neighbors. They're bred to live deep sorrow for the holocaust which usually enrage them as they remember pictures of concentration camps. So instead of breaking kitchen dishes to ease their anger, they just blow up civilians, and the world gets "oops, I did it again" from them. Why not? they've suffered enough, I mean their grandfathers did, it's time for payback!

Answer 7

The problem is with Isrealies themselves, they can't live alone, they have to attack here and there and kill to acheive their goals.

They want to occupie the whole region, and they don't care for killing innocents. they are terrorists

Answer 8

do some honest research.

us jews are not killers. we do wot we need to.

you know that. its the history of the world. we arent mindless killers.

Answer 9

When they lost their conscience, they kill man, woman and child. It's this cruelty that makes human beasts.

Answer 10

Israel has been Terrorising it's neighbours since 1955:-

http://www.action-for-un-renewal.org.uk/pages/isreal_un_resolutions.htm