Do you think that DNA was a cosmic accident or of God?

Question

The fool says there is no God. The holy Bible.

Mandy - You can tell the difference between truth and error. I said YOU can.

Question is, what will you do with the truth? Embrace it? Or discard it?

metomike - "Could not have been an accident". Thank you!

The reality is, some truth requires faith to know and understand. So without faith in that part of truth, a person is very ignorant. I dont care how educated you are.

And if your wrong about that last part?

yoda green

Michaelgmirkin - Very interesting! I see a beautiful picture when looking at the universe, on any level. I think the God of the Bible is the artist. His name is wonderful. The first and the last. The beginning and the end. The alpha and omega. He is the ancient of days! Who was, and is, and is to come. The almighty.
These are only a few of the names of the God of the Bible!

Answer 1

COSMIC ACCIDENT
and not of god...no matter what stupids say

Answer 2

I agree with Mandy. Believing there is a supreme being is just the way humans deal with their inability to address questions which they cannot answer. A supreme being that ACTUALLY has any impact on our world and a valid theory of probability cannot co-exist. Think about it.

And can you really believe that for just a brief period of time in human history a group of humans were given the "privilege" to hear the "word of god"? When you look at the Bible, Torah, and Koran it seems they all heard different things and yet they were never contacted again to make any corrections. And none of these alleged "holy" books contains any knowledge of events beyond that which was known at the time they were written. (i.e. dinosaurs, ice age, etc.) No, I think religion is the ultimate in behavioral control. If I can get my kid to really believe there is an invisible bogeyman under his bed, he will be afraid to get out of it.

As for the question, DNA may be a result of some chemical reaction possibly incubated by the big bang or even extensive solar radiation prior to the Earth forming it's atmosphere. As far as I know we have yet to discover life on other planets and determine if that life it also has DNA, until we do I find it difficult to look at it as a "cosmic" accident. It may be more localized.

p.s. Faith(n) "Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence". It seems to me that answers using this word would be better categorized under "Philosophy"

Answer 3

You forgot an important detail - which god. As I recall, mankind has spawned the idea of a gazillion gods since the dawn of intellect. Most of those aren't even remembered now, but still - it raises the important question of how likely it is that our existant gods are more existant than a lot of other supernatural "beings" that have more or less been dumped or upgraded like trolls, goblins, leprechauns, witches etc.

And DNA looks to me like a normal mathematical solution deducted through a lot of time and evolution. Nothing godlike at all. All of the parts required to create dna + a lot of time = dna.

Answer 4

I say it's cosmic acid. I mean I don't personally believe in god, but i think cosmic acid is more likely and easier to explain that there being one man who created it all. And I mean they say the bible is an authentic things from the words of god, but consider the fact that there are millions of different copies of the bible. Think about the fact that there is also many different religions in the world and how can one thing be true when everyone says that "their" religion is authentic.

Answer 5

It is neither accident or created by God. It is a product of an evolutionary process.

All that in bible is not true and the bible written by men who didn't have the right tools and experience in this field we have now. They didnt even have a telescope then. They believd earth was flat and so on.
No point in getting personal

Answer 6

Neither.

There is no such thing as a "cosmic accident." The cosmos could not have had intentions to make anything specifically, therefore any one molecule could not have been an accident.

DNA did result from random chain reactions, however, if that answers your question.

Answer 7

what do you wanna mean by cosmic accident.
In fact all the components have been on earth for the product of DNA. The DNA molecule is one of the stable giantest molecule in the univers. God exists only for whose who wanna see life easily.
In fact as universe is homgene, i dont see the point to say that there is one God.

Answer 8

DNA is far to complicated (even in the humble ameoba) to be an accident. The odds against such an accident are beyond comprehension. DNA is definitely an act of God. (and so is evolution)

Answer 9

Evolution over Creation all the way.

Good point Mandy!




Don't get me wrong I do believe in a Higher Being but HE is not who you call your God.

Answer 10

This doesn't belong on a science page. Science deals with REALITY. Religion deals with mythology and fantasy.

Answer 11

Neither an accident, nor an act of God. God is an outmoded concept in light of mounting scientific evidence in various fields, but I don't really want to go into the religion vs philosophy versus science debate.

I don't have a definitive answer, however, I'd advise you to do a little bit of reading up on plasma physics. There are a number of good layman sites out there about it. I've been reading up all I can get my hands on. Specifically, read up on Birkeland currents, and magnetic constrictions of electrical currents known as the Z-pinch effect of plasma physics.

Basically what happens is that an electric current generates a magnetic field, which in turn generates a larger electric current, generating more magnetic field, until eventually it gets too strong and effectively pinches itself off.

Long story short, electric currents can attract each other, but also repel one another, when they reach an equilibrium, they tend to twine around one another in a filamentary style (long twisting cords of current). This is one form of electricity/magnetism that is quite common. You'll see filamentary structures in the sun, in space (though astronomers deny the existence of electricity in space; mounting evidence points to their incorrect assumptions).

We see the SAME structures on a cosmic scale that we see on a microscopic scale. So, twisting stranded structures are NOT unexpected in an electromagnetic universe. In fact we EXPECT to see such structures at every level, since plasma characteristics are scaleable ovre many orders of magnitude (probably all orders of magnitude, or close to it).

Please keep an open mind, and read up on these issues and other related issues to get a fuller picture of the universe (it may blow your mind and change how you percieve the world; note: some ofthe following is not accepted YET by the mainstream, but a growing body of evidence and contradiction of established theory is slowly but surely overturning current physics understanding & prediction):

http://www.thunderbolts.info (specifically the picture of the day archive; info on stellar and other phenomena from the point of view of plasma physicists and electrical engineers, the flip side perspective of the universe rather than from an astronomer/astrophysicists view).

http://www.plasmacosmology.net (similar site with info and news relating to the plasma/electric nature of the universe)

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/plasma

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/birkeland+currents

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/alfven

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/birkeland

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/electric+universe+concept

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/plasma+cosmology

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/geomagnetic+storm
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/glow+discharge
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/plasma+lamp

So, as I said, once you really start digging into [plasma physics], the gross structure of the universe from the microscopic to the macroscopic begind to make sense. Things like the stranding, twisting and filamentation of DNA is to be expected, as is the spiral nature of galaxies, the structure of the atom (plasmas generally form layers, and exchange electrical charges, even explode like in nuclear reactions releasing massiveamounts of energy). Also, like DNA, electrical filaments are self-arranging and self-similar, IE they can spawn smaller scale structures in the same manner. Hmm, an interesting parallel. Self-arranging structures in twined electrical currents, and self arranging structures in twined DNA strands. Coincidence? You be the judge...

Cheers, and happy reading!

~Michael Gmirkin

PostScript: I'm not religious, but I think Jesus was a very smart very HUMAN man. Taken from the Gospel of Thomas:

I-Am the Light who is above them all, I-Am the Allº. All came forth from me and all return to me. Cleave wood,¹ there am I. Lift up the stone and there you shall find me.

When you ... make the inside as the outside and the outside as the inside and the above as the below, and if you establish the male with the female as a single unity ...

Whoever has recognized the world has found the body— and whoever has found the body, of him the world is not worthy.

When will the Sovereignty come? || (Yeshua says:) It shall not come by expectation. They will not say: Behold here! or: Behold there! But the Sovereignty of the Father is spread upon the earth, and humans do not perceive it.

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If one wished to draw a not-so-obvious parallel, It's' quite possible that he was speaking of the structure of things. When one makes the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, the top like the bottom... One could simply state that as saying that things are internally consistent and there is a scaleability to things, a sensible structure to the universe. And we DO see in the lab and in space that structure of atoms and structure of stars and structures of galaxies are ostensibly the SAME! They take similar patterns and self-arrange in the same shapes regardless of scale, indicating an underlying principle and physical force that is true in all frames of references and on all scales, from the smallest to the largest and back.

Cleave wood,¹ there am I. Lift up the stone and there you shall find me.
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The Sovereignty of the Father is spread upon the earth, and humans do not perceive it
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Whoever has recognized the world has found the body— and whoever has found the body, of him the world is not worthy
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When you ... make the inside as the outside and the outside as the inside and the above as the below, and if you establish the male with the female as a single unity ... you shall find the sovereignty of the father.

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Once we figure out that everything is the same on all levels and internally consistent, we can move forward with true understanding of "things" as they really are.

My 2c. Again not religious, but I think it's an interesting bit of stuff to ponder, from a science point of view. :)