It looks like they're planning on going ahead regardless of public opinion. Personally I'm gonna flat out refuse to comply - I don't care how much the fine is. What do you think?
2006-07-11 22:46:10 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Government
Wow. Scary... with the exception of 'Just Will', the level of public ignorance is worrying.
Do you realise the government is planning to use these cards to know where you are at ALL times (tracking), to know EVERY single detail about you. EVERYTHING. Nothing will be private.
Believe me - ID cards are NOT ok. Please don't be ignorant!!
www.no2id.com
2006-07-11 23:14:16 · update #1
What's this? We have to pay for ID cards? It's just more money to squeeze out of us!
2006-07-11 22:50:55 · answer #1 · answered by susanradford18 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I agree with the sentiments of this question. ID cards are a really really bad idea. Yes folks, look up the www:NO2id.com website that this questionner recommends and start getting active on this.
ID cards will never work. For starters, the bureaucrats can't identify who is entitled to one because the problem of illegal immigrants is out of control. In fact, the old manual identity cards introduced in the war had to be abandoned because of problems such as unfair police harrassment and there is no reason to believe that future ID cards would be any better. As far as I can see, foreign countries with ID cards only manage because these are really only used for things that passports and driving licences cater for anyway.
The frightening bit is not really the ID card but the big brother system behind it, which will record goodness knows what including your visits to the doctor and bank transactions. So many thousands of people will have access to the system that, as has been found from existing police systems, confidentiality will be impossible.
Before you say you have nothing to hide, think of the implications for instance for somebody who needed to consult the doctor about depression or a sexually transmitted disease.
A particularly frightening aspect of the scheme is that the state reserves the right to make people unpersons by withdrawing cards, which would for instance stop them holding a bank acocunt, applying for a job or going abroad. Without their even having been convicted of a criminal offence,
The issue of unpersons highlights that refusing to comply will not be an easy option. It will not just be a matter of getting fined like the Poll Tax. However, I nevertheless think that enough people would refuse to make things quite impossible for the Government. The jails are full already! And the Government cannot afford to have an underclass of people without ID cards.
As for whether ID cards are an inevitablity, the Government has got itself into an impossible position. It serves Blair, Brown and the other politicians right - not least because if you are in charge these days you need greater scientific savvy (ask any business leader) than most Westminster politicians have acquired. A law background like Blair's, which once would have been an asset, is now very much worse than useless when it comes to strategic decisions concerning schemes like ID cards.
Labour cannot go ahead with ID cards: even they have now realised the cost is escalating out of control. More importantly, I suspect it has dawned on them that introducing ID cards in 2008 would not only lose them an election in 2009/2010 but quite possibly nearly wipe their Party out. Hence the latest news that the scheme is likely to be delayed for technical reasons.
On the other hand, Labour probably has contractual commitments to develop the ID scheme . I suspect it is being egged on by United States interests. And the scheme aggrandizes civil servants who see it as a means of building bureaucratic power, and cosy relationships with IT contractors. Something else Labour is realising too late is that it has failed to keep the vested interests of civil servants under control, and that its gravy train relationships with private business, not least in IT are leaving hornets nests of trouble for the future.
My strong advice to Labour would be to look for breaches in its IT suppliers contracts for this scheme, which should not be hard to find given its out of control costs, and cancel the whole thing. Not least, this would release literally billions of pounds some of which could be used for more effective measures against terrorist threats.
I would be astonished if the ID card scheme, and the database schemes underlying it, do not contravene international human rights law, which the UK cannot renounce, for multiple reasons.
2006-07-12 07:41:57 · answer #2 · answered by Philosophical Fred 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Nothing wrong with ID cards - only those with something to hide fear them!
2006-07-12 06:05:39 · answer #3 · answered by Trevor h 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It's about more than money, it is about tracking you everywhere you go. Every item you purchase, every pub you enter, every time you enter or leave your home, every time you travel. Big Brother will be watching you then. But please, worry about the money...Ignorance IS Strength.
2006-07-12 05:55:53 · answer #4 · answered by lostinromania 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes but I'm not really all that bothered. I'll just pull a silly face when I get my photo done.
2006-07-12 05:55:00 · answer #5 · answered by Stammerman! 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
i think they are really stupid, i mean if they are so concerend with us having one then they should pay for them, im not going to have one, geez it took me long enough to save up for a passport £51. and i thought that was ridiculous
2006-07-12 05:53:23 · answer #6 · answered by linsy 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Welcome to Europe! LOL
2006-07-12 05:55:06 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋