I’ve been thinking about some things that I have been seeing here. I read a comment earlier that stated that all Muslims are terrorists and I wanted to open this topic.
First thing I would like to bring up is that our system is based on the separation of church and state. Our language, the way we believe and the way we conduct ourselves is determined by our society. Our ability to understand is limited to our sociological experience. Islam is the combination of church and state. When you make that the baseline of society things are a little different. The Arabic language itself cannot be truly translated to English because of the basis for it’s creation. The language often references the inshalllah “if god wills it”. Let me site an example:
Think about freedom of religion. If our right to be whatever we want here was infringed upon, well we would go to court.
In the muslim world, when they say “You are infringing on Islam” basically means that you are causing a general oppression of the people. It does not mean we are trying to keep them from practicing their religion, which we take it to mean. Why would they say that?
2006-07-11 04:03:12 · 4 answers · asked by abehagenston 2 in Politics & Government ➔ Politics
Take for example Afghanistan. During the cold war we financed the rebellion against the soviet oppressors. Then, when the soviets pulled out we did too. Suddenly those farmers and nomads who had become dependant on our supplies to survive where left in the desert to eat rocks. Combine that with the incredible power of an illiterate society and a well educated madman and you bread some resentment. Generally society seems to point fingers instead of finding a solution. This is true on both sides of the fences. There is something else that is true on both sides of the fence. WE ARE ALL HUMANS. The truth is if I ever met one of these folks, I bet we could sit down and talk, and in the end no one would fight. I think that is what we should do. As Americans I think we should give them a chance to explain what they perceive that we are doing to them and address the issues one at a time. IF we have wronged people around the world I think we should man up and offer a hand. We can’t do anything to change what has happened, but we can go from this point forward and start healing these bridgeable gaps by opening our ears to their cries and our eyes to our actions. WE NEED TO KNOW what our government has been doing around the world. I think about my own social circle. If just about everybody was pissed at me I might look at myself and see what it is I am doing that is pissing people off. My general experience is that people don’t get pissed at me unless I do something for them to be pissed at.
Don’t judge a book by it’s cover. Tolerance and understanding can only lead to peace.
What can we do to help? What kind of business could we help them get into that would actually help? After all we know for these depressed nations to get out of it they need industry. It is time for us to stop talking about global responsibility and respond globally.
ADDITION: There was a comment on here about the birth of the Islam. The origans for the two religions are the same. They were both born from the need for the oppression of human beings to stop. The history channel has a great program on islam. When they took up arms they did so in a just cause, and when they had defeated the tyrany, the prophet left as there was no more need for war.
Lets address what happened. With religions come fundimentalists. Who are usually a lot more ignorant then they appear. The call to Jihad has 2 meanings. 1 is a pasifist resistance and recognition of social injustice. The other is a call to war because the first doesn't work. Sounds kind of like freedom of speach, followed by the right to bear arms (with the right to petition somewhere in between). Maybe they aren't so different.
2006-07-11 04:08:29 · answer #1 · answered by Abe H 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
It isn't that hard to understand.
We (all westerners) belong to the Dar al Harb - the house of war/evil/chaos. Good muslims belong to the Dar al Islam - (literally) the House of submission (to the will of Allah). Muslims must spread their religion and defeat the Dar al Harb at ALL COSTS and by any means. There are only two ways to deal with an enemy that intractable: kill them all or kill the fanatics and convert the rest to your way of thinking.
This isn't a misunderstanding, this is another battle in the ongoing war between Western and Eastern Civilization. Islam just introduces a radical religious element into the war. Islam was born in war started by it's chief "prophet". Christianity was born with the unjust death (and resurrection) of it's Messiah. Islam (in its true form) gives you these choices: conversion, slavery (to them), or death (by their hands). Christianity (in its true form) gives you these choices: for the sake of your eternal soul, join us, or live your life as you please but don't say we didn't warn you. Eastern civilization in general offers us submission to the will of the god/king, slavery, or death. Western civ offers us a social contract between the sovereign individual and the state. I know which one I choose.
2006-07-11 11:24:50 · answer #2 · answered by Crusader1189 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is a great misunderstanding. I don't have problem with Muslims. But then I don't have a problem with Jews, Buddists, or anybody else for that matter.
Who I do have a problem with are those people who don't think their diety can handle a problem. Inshallah- If it's a culture clash any change will be inshallah.
2006-07-11 11:18:28 · answer #3 · answered by namsaev 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
"infringing on islam" is code talk for they are not taking over the world and imposing their will and dictatorial style fast enough....
they are trying to use our own "political correctness" of not wanting to slight anyone against us
2006-07-11 11:07:13 · answer #4 · answered by badjanssen 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋