Why are most rugby players meatheads?

Question

and why are they costantly attempting to prove their masculinty in front of others by acting aggressive with their humourless,juvenile antics?and what's that "see who can laugh the loudest at **** jokes" game all about.Why do they all drink real ale and think footballers are "poofs" when their game was invented by a cheating football player?(w.webb ellis) Cavemen!!

and their wives?

I gave up rugby for cage fighting.loved playing rugby just hated the bull**** and social scene of the sheep involved.The last few answers have convinced me of my overall perception of the people involved so thanks

Answer 1

Rugby players are all really closet footballers but because they lacked the intelligence, skill etc to participate at a meaningfull level they had to resort to Rugby. They are mostly bloated whales in body shape and as to the reference to footballers being poofs I find it interesting that Rugby has it's own Gay World Cup so instead of forming a scrum they will all be forming a circle.

Answer 2

I am a Brit living in the US and I have been coaching a college team for the last 2 years. I have 35 years background in playing, coaching and administering rugby in the UK and USA. It seems to me that money is the fundamental root of the problem. Because of the lack of it, we have poor practice and coaching facilities, little publicity for the game and no effective way of competing at varsity level and beyond against the more traditional American sports. Raising standards relies on several things: 1. Get kids into the game early - most who play in the US start at college, aged 18-19, which is way too late. 2. Provide quality training facilities - finding dedicated rugby fields is really difficult. 3. Develop strong coaches - the vast majority of coaches are well-meaning folks but they just have too little experience to be coaching decent teams. 4. The same goes for referees - the huge majority are very poor in their understanding of the game and this has a huge effect on the way the game is played, especially at the junior levels. 5. USA Rugby has to step up to the plate too - now that Nigel Melville is in charge, I am hopeful on this front, but it is still to early to say what progress he might be able to make. They must attract way more funding and publicity (especially TV air time) to the game. 6. To make any real impression, rugby must reach varsity status in colleges. To do that will take 40 colleges identifying the game as a varsity sport. To date, the number is around 5-6 nationally. We also need to get rugby back into the Olympics, particularly as the US won the gold last time it was an Olympic sport back in the 1920's. That should raise the sport's profile. 7. In the US, rugby has a poor image as a sport intrinsically linked with drunkenness and bad behavior. This image doesn't help recruitment at the junior levels, where parents tend to have a lot of influence over what sports their kids play. It also tends to deter businesses from providing much-needed sponsorship. 8. We have to do a far better job of minimizing the perceived risks of the game. Many people think it is just American Football without the pads and that is not an attractive thought for a concerned parent or a prospective recruit to the game. I could go on all day but that's probably enough to be going on with. All of the above require significant funding and sponsorship to make the US truly competitive on the world stage. Given the resources available here, there is really no reason why this cannot be achieved even in the medium term. We need strong leadership from USA Rugby to make this happen and I am rooting for their success because, at the end of the day, the US Eagles (men and women) should be in the top flight of world rugby.

Answer 3

I'm not sure what your club was like, but I rather like the diversity on my club team. Both men and women. Most of us have our masters degree in some sort of discipline, some are doctorates. Yep, we all act a little overzealous at times when we are most enjoying ourselves after a victory or just a really great training session. But I don't think rugby players are trying to draw the attention of others to prove anything other than the sport that they play is one that they cherish.

There are a few meatheadish individuals in the club, but I wouldn't trade them for the world! They are great people and great rugby players! Hey, and they taught me how to be a female meathead. And I kind of like it. And you know what, I like ale too. And my laugh has often been described as a cackle. And I think soccer, soooorrrryyy, football players are pansies. DRAMA. THEATRICS. EMBARRASSMENT. HEAD BUTT. ITALIAN FALLEY DOWNEY.

Answer 4

Excuse me?

When will people learn that by making sweeping generalisations they inevitably make themselves look foolish.

I have played rugby since the age of 7, and I would hazard a guess I'm less of a meathead that you, as I don't set out do deliberately offend large numbers of people.

People laugh at bawdy jokes because we find them amusing, drink ale because they like it, I know hundreds of people like that who aren't rugby players. If anything, football players are worse, because we don't normally get any chavs coming in.

We call football players poofs because they are wont to fall over at the slightest brush of the arm, and stay down (if Portuguese there doesn't need to be anyone near for the same end result to be achieved), whereas we take crushing tackles, bloody noses, bruised ribs, black eyes, being raked by studs and stamped on in out stride. I myself have had all those injuries regularly, occasionally all in one day, and not for one of them gone off or rolled around on the floor. The mentality in rugby is that you should be hard, get up and get on with the game. Have you ever seen a football player play on with any of those injuries? At the very least the game would be stopped while they could get medical attention.

Answer 5

Q. Why are they constantly attempting to prove their masculinity..?
A. The reason they play(ed) the game was to prove their masculinity. They may have thought they would be shown as tough men, and as most people do not really care, it backfires, so they go back to the immature antics that they knew before playing the game.

Q. Why are .. meatheads?
A. Due to the answer above, these people did not have the opportunity to develop as people, and as they could show their masculinity on field and afterwards with their mates/friends, they had no reason to develop (grow up).

Q. and whats that "see ... jokes" game all about?
A. It is just another way to show their masculinity, and to prove to others they have something when they don't. Ie, they are mature, when they are not, etc.

Q. Why do they drink ... cheating football player?
A. They drink real ale (beer) as it is a tradition of the game inherited over the years. Most probably to keep the rubgy club going while not spending too much money. It costs more to buy spirits, etc, that the night of drinking could got longer.
They think footballers are "poofs" because of the way they fake injuries, and then all of a sudden are running around as if nothing happened. Eg, a football player will fall over clutching their face when they got kicked in the shin, and then will either be running for the ball, or running with the ball, having no sign of the injury they apparently attained.
This is possibly why mr webb ellis decided to pick up the ball, cheat, and change the game according to the school he was in at the time. This rule changing was accepted, and nearly every school in England has different rules. This made the formation of the Football Association, the Rugby Football Union, and later the Rugby Football League, a necessity as they were no formal rules established, and holding competitions between different schools was proving difficult.

"The schism between the Football Association and Rugby Football
The Football Association was formed at the Freemason’s Tavern, Great Queen Street, on Lincoln Inn Fields, London October 26 1863 with the intention to frame a code of laws that would embrace the best and most acceptable points of all the various methods of play under the one heading of "football". At the 5th meeting F. W. Campbell a member of the Blackheath Club argued that hacking is an essential element of the ‘football’ and that to eliminate hacking would “do away with all the courage and pluck from the game, and I will be bound over to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week’s practice”. At the 6th meeting on December 8 F.W.C. withdrew the Blackheath Club explaining that the rules that the FA intended to adopt would destroy the game and all interest in it. Other rugby clubs follow this lead and did not join the Football Association.


The forming of the First Rugby Union
In December 1870 Edwin Ash, Secretary of Richmond Club published a letter in the papers which said, "Those who play the rugby-type game should meet to form a code of practice as various clubs play to rules which differ from others, which makes the game difficult to play". On January 26 1871 a meeting attended by representatives from 22 clubs was held in London at the Pall Mall Restaurant. As a result of this meeting Rugby Football Union (RFU) was founded. Three lawyers who had been pupils at Rugby School drew up the first laws of the game which were approved in June 1871.


The schism between Rugby Union and Rugby League
For more details see History of Rugby League

On August 29 1895 at a meeting at the George Hotel, Huddersfield on August 29 1895, twenty clubs from Yorkshire, Lancashire and Cheshire decided to resign from the RFU and form the Northern Rugby Football Union which from 1922 would be known as the Rugby Footabll League. The dispute about payment was one which at the time was also effecting soccer and cricket. Each game had to work out a compromise; Rugby was the least successful at doing this. It would be a century before Rugby Union became professional and would allow players who had played a game of Rugby League (even at an amateur level) to play in a Union game."[1]

Answer 6

Before Rugby union went pro the players had to earn a living as well as be top of their game. They couldn't get away with being the ignorant, illeduated thugs or poofs that pro footballers are.

Listen to post match interviews you'll soon realise which come across as more articulate and intelligent.

Can't remember who said it but:
"Football is a gentleman's game played by hooligans, rugby is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen"

As for having to prove themselves/juvenile antics etc... that's universal - have a look around next saturday night.

Answer 7

I've played both Soccer and Rugby Union and watch my brothers play Rugby League, There a meat heads in every sport let alone work place. Unlike soccer Union players have other professions cause they may need to fall back on them in case they get seriously injured unlike soccer fakers and i know they fake i used to do it when i played too - it was some thing i was taught to do.

w.webb ellis wasn't cheating he was improving a boring low scoring woosie game.

My last rugby team had Two teachers, a youth worker, a social worker and several administrators in the team none of which were Ale drinking meat heads. I'm my brothers local team there a lawyers, carpenters, mechanics, teachers etc all of whom had to study to get get their jobs.

If you cant hack it go play tiddly winks and have a glass of milk.

Answer 8

I didn't know they were. You should compare interviews with footballers and rugby players, then you might see who the real meatheads are. Footballers are poofs.

Answer 9

It's not just rugby players. Heck, there are even some women, now that we've experienced a degree of equality in America, who act the same way.

Answer 10

well im a rugby player and im not a meathead. your just to much of a soft **** to play the game so you sledge men who can play the game..... you WIMP