Who believes America's morality began spiraling downward when prayer was removed from public schools?

Question

Since that time, cultural morals and values have declined in direct correlation with Supreme Court and Government's edicts: Roe v Wade, removal of Pledge of Allegiance from schools and public offices, promotion of homosexuality as a 'lifestyle' rather than an abomination in the eyes of God, and the direct attacks on God's people who try to promote the Word.

Answer 1

I agree.

Answer 2

Prayer is something that should be performed on an individual basis. You can pray at any time or place of your choosing. There is no reason to make everyone in a school or any other place participate in prayer.
The Pledge of Allegiance did not contain the words "under God" until the 1950s. I think it was just fine without those words.
Perhaps the reason why "God's people" have been directly attacked is because THEY are so uncivil, pushy, and hysterical in their attempts to convert the rest of us to their point of view. I do not need their help in order to formulate my own opinions, and I will not accept "revealed truth" as a substitute for rational thinking.
Religion does not have a monopoly on morality.

Answer 3

First of all you should redifine your question to "since that time, traditional christian cultural morals and values have declined..."
Second of all
the banning prayer in U.S. public schools ala Engel v. Vitale was in 1962 in this same decade their was mass population growth in the poist WWII era, "baby boomers" with this growth cities and suburbs became more crowded, as people live closer together fears and stereo types disolve promoting free thinking such as the beat movment(which originated in the mid 50s-before engel v. Vitale, mind you).

Earlier In the same decade the counter culture emovment started by Ken Kesey and Allen Ginsburg promoted love and harmony which the youth- now those incharge- found appealing.

Thirdly
to say something the christian god believes based off a book written by the wealthy and politicallyed empowered~300 years after its focus was was martyed is asinine, also going by the Bible if you ever ate shell fish your commiting a sin far greater than sodomy

Answer 4

I feel that you should be able to practice religion in school. But- it has to be your choice, it cannot occur during school hours, and it cannot be supported or funded by the school.

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i'd blame this more on overly liberal child rearing methods

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you have the right to do what you wish with your property. your body is your property. sorry...

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this is just stoooooopid. don't say God if you don't want to, but leave my pledge alone.

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you have the right to do what you wish with your property. your body is your property. sorry... While our laws are based on judeo-christian morals they are still secular.

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*IF* they are infringing upon other people's rights i have to support this. freedom of religion means freedom of religion for *all*

"we should be able to pray where ever we feel like it!"
you can, but you can't be endorsed by a facet of government when you do it.

Answer 5

Uuuuuuh too bad many people don't pray. And if they do, half of those people have a different way of praying due to being of a different religion. I live in Texas, and after the pledge of alleigence, they have a 20 second moment of silence where students and faculty can think to themselves, pray, or meditate. The point is that the whole building is quiet and respects that tiny moment alloted for personal time.

Other wise, it's an individual's choice to be religous or moral or whatever on their own time. Things just get uncomfortable when opinions like yours start to suffocate everybody.

Answer 6

I don't think morality is an worse off now that it has been in the past. What's immoral is organized religion's lock on what it deems moral. I'm very much an atheist and I'm raising my children as atheists. I can honestly say my children have a much clearer and better understanding of morality than most of their religiously indoctrinated friends. They know right from wrong, they know how and why to respect others, and they know they are responsible for their own behavior. They don't need some doctrine or dogma or bible to tell them what's right and what's wrong. In my opinion, to believe in a god is like catching a mental virus, it takes over your mind and is very hard to shake.

Answer 7

This is just another under-educated yahoo (sorry Yahoo...). I don't remember the exact date that 'prayer' was removed from public schools, lets say '63 for arguments sake. So what you are saying is that in 1962 this country was a bastion of morality.... Bullshit...... Well if you think it's moral to hang people for the color of their skin I guess it was. If you think that a segment of our population is too stupid to vote because of their gender then I guess it was.... For you it all boils down to one issue. Homosexuality. In the 40's and 50's you would have hated black people with the bible backing you up (somehow), Before that it would have been the Irish or Polish....

Now I don't want abortion but before we outlaw it we need to put in place viable alternatives and understand that it is an option in the case of rape or insest.

As for homosexuality, it make me a bit quezy..... but then the bible says 'judge not lest you be judged' and I believe that you will be.

Answer 8

I think it happened when prayer was removed from their home.
Really, who prays as a family or even teaches their kids how to pray? Not a whole lot of people anymore. I think Kids get their beliefs, moral values and sense of being from the parents not the public school. We'd all be in a sorry place if we left it up to the schools to do our parenting job. People are too busy and angry to stop and pray as a family...... until something tragic happens..... and that's sad. Once you do, you will definitely see things change.

Answer 9

Nobody is promoting anything. Society adapts itself. You can't force things on it. If the world is getting liberated that is because the world is changing. And if its good or bad we just have to cope up with it. Just because one says his prayers everyday doesn't make him or her good or morally superior. Its all in your mind. I have come across people who do all the nasty things around and pray on Sundays and declare that their sins are washed away and I have also seen people who don't believe in God as a person rather they do good things, they are honest and not hypocritical. One of the dangers in the society is judging others under the name of religion and their beliefs. So grown up!

Answer 10

You sound like a bigot. Please do not oppress or insult my beliefs. Prayer had no place in public schools.

You call yourself one of God's people, and yet you cannot be a true Christian. To be Christ-like you can hate no one and condemn no one. If you consider yourself without sin or fault, please do educate us poor "sinners", but if you are human and thus faulty, please allow your ego to deflate, as you are not special nor right.

I have the right to an abortion, as it is my body, not yours, and the pledge is said in public schools, I simply choose not to say it. You are not persecuted for your beliefs, you are disliked for your bigotry. Homosexuals are not yours to condemn, as they have done nothing wrong.

People like you have caused a decrease in morality all over the world. Religious and good are not synonymous for a reason, as they have very little to do with each other. I cannot respect someone who preaches hate, and therefore you deserve no respect. I pity you.

Answer 11

That would be me, for one. But I would say that rather morals going downward, I would say that it just became more public after prayer was removed. It was always there but hidden. When prayer was removed, something had to replace the vaccuum.