Have any non adherents to Islam seen the video entitled ' loose change' ...it's on the net free of charge?..

Question

what do you think of it ?

Answer 1

Ok, I saw it just now, fell asleep, but woke up (it's very late here). It requires study. Nice movie, but it needs analysis. Actually I never actually read or heard the words that Al-Qaida took responsibility for 9.11. So I feel that it deserves a good hearing and all the confusion needs to be sorted and served in clear, compartmentalised, logically sequential, organic sections. What do YOU know about this movie? When did it come out first (I only just heard of it), and what's the general opinion, right now? But if you think about it we all think that the Bush company is just a two-bit conspiracy, anyway. It's all a show with a voice louder than anybody else's. Life is so cheap, today. We need to be a little more sharp and capable of applying our intelligence to change the situation. War is part of the drama. Now Lebanon. It's become surreal. As if we are witnessing a nightmare. Don't let them take your memory.

Answer 2

So, based on your question I watched the movie. Absent the existance of the actual facts of the case it looks like he offers a compelling case.

Don't be confused, what he does is takes interviews and news reports from the initial chaotic few hours and mixes them with a combination of liberal hatred and a complete lack of physics understanding.

He also doesn't seem to even do basic fact checking relying more on emotional appeals and finger pointing.

I was really surprised to learn a B-52 hit the Empire State building in 1945. This must be investigated thouroughly! Official "facts" say that the B52 did not fly until 1954. What was a nuclear bomber doing flying in the fog over New York 9 years before the "government" will admit that it existed? I smell a vast conspiracy. :-)

Now it's easy to dismiss this as an isolated incident, but is it? Why is the documentor so confused as to why the windows were blowing out below the top of a collapsing building? Why can't he understand why reasonable business men would be removing the gold that they are entrusted to care for when the building is on fire? Why is he so confused about the fireball blowing down the elevator shafts? Why would anyone care if 2 WWII era storage tanks were destroyed? They were probably dangerous nuisances. Is he asserting that this was a rehersal for the towers? Do you realize what a stupid assertion this is? Blowing down a storage tank and blowing down a skyscraper are completely different. Why is he surprised that steel liquified in the collapse of the towers? This is basic physics.

When you want to do research you should examine the evidence and then come to a conclusion. This guy came to a conclusion and then through these blinders he found quotes and pictures that matched his belief and created a fiction. There is a market for this kind of stuff, but don't confuse it with reality.

Answer 3

Why do you ask 'non-adherants to Islam' as if adherants to Islam have a biased world view just by their religious orientation. the question is badly framed and you should be ashamed of yourself of assuming that Islam just by faith makes a person different when it comes to judging events of 9-11, by far most Muslims condemn taking innocent lives, and don't want war on USA, or whatever you assume in your initial statement. Too bad you haven't visited a moderate arab country like Tunisia or Turkey to see people living happily with Islam.

Then about the film.

It's a nice film about a conspiracy of 9-11. Too bad we will never know what happened on 9-11, this film adds evidence and speculation to the events, as have so many books and personalities.

The real problem is that mainstream media, academia and companies have no interest in challenging the most powerful government in the world, as the USA funds, authorises, taxes and regulates them.

In Europe, the Guardian uncovered that Bush stole his first election, and that is a major newspaper in the UK, the thing was the butterfly ballot in Florida which should have all be excluded from the real count. Nobody refuted this Guardian story as untrue, but it wasn't picked up by other media in the world. Why? Simply fear and reasons above. Now, with 9-11, there was no such large media refuting the claims, so any alternative theories are left to independent movie makers (like Loose Change) and independent media, freelance authors etc. Most people won't believe them, such is the world we live in.

Ok, based on the arguments in the 'loose change', I think the most compelling cases are the Pentagon hit and the Mobile phones not working at the flight altitude to make the calls for the flight 93. Also the seismic data from Columbia University is good data, looking at what actually made collapse the WTC towers after the planes hit them. Eyewittness accounts are not credible in most cases, as you should remember that people giving them are in shock, and can exaggerate many of the things they see or hear, or make up for things they didn't see to settle their mind.

Covering up things when an accident/attack/conspiracy of this sort happens is what the military always does, and that is any military in the world. You won't get far criticising the military, as it may reveal something about the composition of the Pentagon, offices where people are located, etc, which are military secrets. So that is no wonder, but covering up civil information and not giving a credible account that adds up about all of this is strange.

The way in which the information is presented by the US government is amateurish, if they want to cover up it puzzles me how come they can't do it properly... which leads me to think that if it is a conspiracy, they have a small group of people working for it. Whatever is the truth (which in military terms will never be known I think), I think this shows the lack of proper public debate in the USA about the causes, events and honesty of 9-11, these pieces of evidence are serious ones, and require an inquiry from the next president of the USA is he or she has the courage to start uncovering these issues.

What this shows is America, who doesn't even care of it's own destiny, if the people watching mainstream media believe the stories at FOX or CNN, then really complaicancy has kicked in, I'm glad for independent media makers, even in a slightly sensationalist way, putting another case forward. So I'm glad for this film.

Answer 4

Its interesting. Nicely put together. The best part of it is that they present the information so that you can do your own independent research.

Answer 5

No I havn't seen it. I am sure it is loosly about change !

Answer 6

Will look at it later

Answer 7

pimp