Wow, you read my mind. I see things like that all the time where I'm from.
2006-07-07 14:00:31
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answered by Led*Zep*Babe 5
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Hello, Nick
I think that I may have an answer for your question now before I get started I do totally understand “a lil” was you are coming from. I think that you are right there is a double standard on race in America in that some people can say something and others can not, and you are right, if a white mayor of any city... had said that he wanted to make his city a white chocolate city there would be a riot or fifty (lol), I also believe that this double standard is one of many thing that will always keep the races (black and white) divided for the (most part) and I along with a very large majority of the black community are not for this double standard. However MR Nick you have to realize that form say.... about the year 1650 to 1990(after 1990 white people kept all comments inside there own groups for the fear impending altercations) the "majority" could say anything they wanted about the "minorities" and it be socially accepted. Now I don’t know why our (“majorities And minorities) societies have made lil comments from minorities accepted, maybe... a feeling of guilt.., hell I don’t know maybe just the fact that knowing the start of your lives that you have a head start over any one that is a lil lower on the color spectrum than you are, or knowing that they (minorities) may have a chocolate city, or brown city, or Jew city, but you have the state and the nation. Now Nick am not condoning the use of these "lil" racial comments I think that as long as they are accepted we will never begin the healing process but these comments are from the seeds that white people have sewen and the harvest of hate is being reaped. Now I understand that you are uncomfortable with all of the comments the we minorities say about you and how we minorities constantly give you dirty looks when you walk into our stores thinking to our selves what is he going to take, and going to get something to eat with your family and getting the worst serves and all the looks because you happened to venture out of city, and knowing that even if you are the most qualified for the job because you are not in with the good ol boys you will not get it, and if you do because of a law passed to break the cycle implemented by us you still will be under the microscope looking for any hick up so that you can be terminated no not terminated have your hours drastically cut so that the company can meet there quota and the good ol boys can get more hours. And trust me I understand how you feel and all I can do is welcome you with open arms in to the little taste of what we have been and still are going through till this day but keep you head up and press on I am sure well make it
2006-07-07 15:47:41
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answer #2
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answered by Anonymous
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This is the question that no one will ask, answer or publicly recognize.
We live in an age of victimization. To be a victim is good. Once someone becomes accepted as a victim, they no longer have to be responsible for their behavior.
We have this big Slavery issue hanging over us, historically. It is a tool by blacks to expain away alot of what they do.
And guess what?
It is a legitimate answer!
But.....
it is a poor excuse.
Think of it this way. We, "regular white guys" (please don't email me about this phrase...just keep reading), who grew up in an American, anglo, white, middle class home, for the most part had a normal upbringing. We had two parents (divorce was rare), went to church or had a code of behavior. We had the nurturing of a loving mother and the strength of a father in the home. We had support of a family. It was part of our heritage and value system. Each generation was the same , passing down what they knew to the next generation.
But......did the black family experience the same?
No. as little as three generations ago, the black experience was one of being born into slavery. Where was Mom? Having more babies to make more slaves. Same with the daughters. Where was the father? Sold. Brothers. Sold. They had no tradtitional "family" as "white folks" know.
So, how could white anglo christian values be taught? They weren't. There was no family unit. Therefore, they grew up with no values other than survival!
Good or bad? Well, obviously it is bad, but that's it.
Blacks don't use this "excuse" because it can change and will someday. The lack of stable families is the key to our failure in elevating the "black society" to the white(allow me some politcally incorrect verbiage) but it takes a long long time.
The excuse they use is that others are racist. Maybe some but certainly not all the time.
Let's use the word "white" for non-blacks...if you allow me.
Let me ask you this. If a majority of "crime" (by numbers) is committed by blacks (possibly caused by the family break-down of black families during slavery..) and there are 20 black people standing on the corner in the Bronx ay midnight and you are white and walking down the street and have to walk by them, when you cross the street because you don't feel safe.....
....are you a racist or did you cross the street because you calculated that you may be in danger, because of what you have learned or know or believe the odds are that something may happen? And if you "judge" that the more prudent move would be to cross the street, does that make you "judgemental"?
If you are judgemental...somehow a bad thing....(go figure) then you may be called a racist. If you aren't a racist and you made a conclusion from evidence from the past, then "They" are responsible for your decision.
If they are...they they have to fix it.
If you are a racist, then you have to fix it.
It is all about not accepting responsibility for our race relations.
And if people call you a racist, then they don't have to discuss the problem with you.
and being a victim is better (see top)
One last point.....
Asians some may say, are smarter than others. That is actually racism. But they aren't. CULTURALLY, they have been taught the value of education, studying hard etc. The parents EXPECT it of them. Their society expects it of them. That much is true and that is what is different between Asians and Americans. It is a cultural difference, but not racism!
2006-07-11 02:17:02
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answered by Anonymous
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Nick M...are you serious? This is the battle you pick, with everything else in the world?
I spoke with a young man recently in length about this very same topic and we found together some pretty interesting things.
At the end of the conversation he was furious with me, leaning towards uncontrollable anger and a violent tirade. It seemed to me he was acting out like a spoiled child that had his treat taken away from him and I explained to him thusly:
It's not about the statement that was made - about feeling "out" of a certain city because a mayor says he doesn't want your kind. It's not about the controversy of political correctness, or the slavery that corrupted our country's past.
It's about feeling completely clueless as to why a race of people want nothing to do with you. Wondering why people hate you because of the color of your skin, the way you were raised or the country you are from. Realizing that nothing you do can change the way people think of you that have been taught in a hateful or derrogatory manner. Actually feeling racism.
In the end, his confusion and anger stemmed from a lack of confidence - a fear of retribution against his beliefs, however warped they were. He was ultimately mad that another race of people could say whatever they wanted to and he felt he couldn't do the same without being labeled a racist.
I'll say to you what I said to him:
Don't be a coward your whole life. If you beleive in something to be true, however warped it is, at least have the stones to stand up for it. People in this world live their entire lives hoping for one split second they will have the chance to be heard and you can't even say what you really want to.
Either realize that I am right or spout your bullsh*t, but either way grow a pair.
2006-07-07 19:02:06
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answered by Vincent 3
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I understand your question. NO RACISM INTENDED
I think for the most part, that a group other than a minority group is held more accountable for their actions (including words) because, for one, we hold our tongues out of fear, and minorities know this, and two White /Caucasian groups are the only ones trying to really stop the hate or racism. A minority group can say they stand for "stopping the hate/racism, but not without bringing up the past, which by the way this generation had nothing to do with. I remember in school, certain groups would wear Africa T-shirts and black power shirts and nothing was said or done, but could you imagine a white kid wearing a shirt with the White Power logo? The reality is, that we all need to think before we act or speak, especially those that are in the public eye. That dude who said "chocolate city" should have been booted out of office immediately. Myself, I am politically incorrect and that's just the way it is.
2006-07-07 14:17:48
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answered by mexme2day 2
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I see it and it isn't fair, but the thought behind comments like that are subconscious most of the time. Minorities are being raised with a sense of pride and sometimes that pride can look like or turn into racism. After what has happened in the past from European conquest to American territorial war, Minorities feel a sense of entitlement. Like there is something owed. Making comments like that gives power to the speaker and unites the people. It probably isn't the best way to unite people. I don't think it will ever change. Racial pride doesn't have to involve hatred or violence. There is still separation and minorities as well as whites see it. We need to lead by example and change it one person at a time. Start with the youth. Be the best example of whatever you are without judgement. Maybe that will help the societal change.
2006-07-07 14:11:46
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answered by cleva_philosophy 1
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It's all about lobbying. If whites created a stir when a minority said something maybe it would be just as equal but white people seem to not really care as much...you may care but ALL of my white friend's are clueless and could care less but black people seem to care all the time. Either way and either race, such remarks are wrong and I find a minority just as at fault for their remarks as that of any white individual.
2006-07-07 14:03:11
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answered by Aletheuo 2
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you know what i see this more and more everyday, and it bothers me. yes im white and yes it upsets me. ok so the white folk made some f8ckups.....as far as slavery goes, but lets remember that usually africans were caught due to deals made with BLACK slave traders.No i am not racist, i just kinda hate everyone whos ignorant. I mean come on...why should anyone be so afraid to voice there opinion without fear of a lawsuit? Its not fair, its not what this country was founded for. I say if a black man can call another black man n*gga then there asking for it...dont call your own race by derogitory terms...thats just making it easier for haters. if you wouldnt want someone else to call you by a racist name, then DONT USE IT TOWARDS YOU FRIENDS!!!! I think its gotten totally out of control, no one can be politically correct with out offending someone anymore, and everyone ends up being the victim. all i have to say if you dont want to hear things like this then stop saying them, set an example. one person still has the power to make a difference, or start a movement. Another thought is that they b*tch about it just so they can make lawsuits and be lazy. just a thought....btw.....not just black americans but all minority americans. I also dont think they should be labeled as minoritys..that just gives them fuel. I dont thik there are any minorities anymore...we're all americans....remember that saying oh what was it..give me your tired your hungry...does anyone remember why this country was founded? freedom freedom of religion, of persecution. Sure we made some mistakes...why dont we grow up and take responsibility. sorry for such a lengthy answer but i feel so very strongly about this subjct...
for ppl who want to think im a hater, my husband is black american/native american mix, and our roommate is puerto rican... colors mean nothing to me.
2006-07-07 14:14:48
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answered by rednecksurfer_roxy 3
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I am white and I constantly hear Minorities whine and complain about 'the white man' being racist. When the truth be told, who brings up 'racism'? Certainly not I. Imagine being white in LA County Jail. Do our mommas whine in front of the Jail about how our white sons are facing danger daily? Do we sit there and seek lawsuits because we are the minority who face extinction in LA County daily? When those Latinos jumped the blacks, though, there was a huge political backlash. Those jailers can't protect whites and Asians, how are they going to protect blacks and Latinos? Latino moms aren't out there crying that their children are being attacked. Heck no, because Latinos take care of business. Whites handle their own business once they hit the joint, but as long as we are alone in County, oh well. How about those two white gay males in their own neighborhood (West Los Angeles) got jumped and beaten by two African American males who deliberately came from their neighborhood to commit hate crimes against the white man, yet our City Attorney (or District Attorney) refused to file it as a hate crime, and called it just a simple robbery or some sleazy charge like that. Let one of our white brothers touch a black man and it's a special circumstance hate crime. I never understood that one.
2006-07-07 14:09:43
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answered by fingerssfv 3
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For the straightforward reason that the 'Muslim minority' contains Pomaks (Slavic human beings) and Roma human beings to boot...the Turks are in ordinary words the 50% of those 'muslims' even perchance a lot less..the reality is that Lausanne's treaty reported that Greeks of Istanbul will be characterized as 'greeks' even as the muslims will be characterized as 'muslims' so it really is not Greece's fault...one extra very interesting actuality is that each and every time a greek television channel makes a reportage there although those anybody is self-defined as 'greeks of a muslim faith' yet even as turkish television makes reportages there they self-outline as 'turks' they ought to stabilise their perspectives first and then placed the blame on Greece in the journey that they nevertheless do not outline them as turks ;-)
2016-11-01 10:05:30
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answered by basinger 4
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We have been trained (through tv and political correctness, and even our schools) to have "white guilt". Indeed this is a double standard. Thee are way too many white people who are willing to feel giulty about being white and are more than happy to offer themselfs to the chopping block.
It's the medias fault.
Also, ever watch MTV? I stopped watching it in the late 80's when it went to all rap, and gay leftist programming (the real world etc). Even white kids these days are mimicking the black gangsta rappers...they weren't doing that before MTV. They created a market for this crap. The media is god, and we (most people) believe what we watch; propoganda 101.
Ask yourself: *Who owns the media? *Who owns MTV?
There is a link at the bottom of my post, to a video that should shock all white people.Where is the outrage?
2006-07-07 14:10:06
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answered by D J 2
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