If liberals defend gay marriage, what's to stop them from defending NAMBLA - Gay pedophilia?

Question

We all know liberal states have the least punishment for pedophiles. They get a slap on the wrist. Do liberals admire them?

Liberal input appreciated.

Keep in mind, liberals claim to be open-minded. I mean, marriage has always been male-female. I do have a point.

Answer 1

Of course Liberals admire Sex Offenders, they even had one as President of The United States before (Bill Clinton).

Answer 2

I'm always disturbed by arguments like this, not because they have any validity but because they prove the person making them is so morally bereft they can't imagine anyone else has the ability to rationally draw the line between things like loving relationships between consenting adults, and raping little kids.

The only people this is a 'slippery slope' to are the people who can't seem to figure out how to make a distinction and draw the line, and need to simply do away with all their choices except one in order to know what they should do... which unfortunately seems to be an ability conservatives mostly lack, not liberals.

I'm sorry, but most of us, gay or otherwise, do know to keep our hands out of little kids' pants, so gay marriage has nothing to do with it.

Besides, you're making that complaint in a country where Nebraska just this year had to start debating a minimum marriage age because straight people were dragging twelve and thirteen year olds across the border and marrying them to escape being punished for having sex with them.

Oddly, none of the people Nebraska's trying to stop from doing that are same-sex couples.

And no, you don't have a point about marriage having always been "male-female". It's long been that way in Western, Christian driven cultures... but quite a few other cultures allowed same-sex couples to enjoy marriage if they wanted to--including the Native American cultures, which were just fine with the idea-- until Europeans came along and started "civilizing" everyone.

In any case, traditionally speaking marriage hasn't been about the love and commitment of a man and a woman for each other in Western society. For the bulk of Europe's history (and America's for that matter), marriage has been about a father getting to trade off a worthless daughter for some shiny new merchandise and livestock.

This whole "love and intimacy" thing is new on the block for marriage, and still isn't the going theory on the matter across the world. For most of its history, marriage has been much more a matter of convenience and politics than anything else, so let's stop pretending straight people have been busting their asses the last three thousand years to maintain the integrity of the human heart through the sacred institution of marriage since it's complete b.s. Straight people have treated marriage (and women, for that matter) reprehensibly for millennia.

At least gay people are trying to get off to a good start.

Oh, and for the record, "but we've always done it like that" is neither a justification something is right, nor a good excuse for continuing to do the wrong thing.

Answer 3

Simple answer to this question is that Liberals defend peoples actions to do what they want as long as this doesn`t interfere with other peoples similar rights. So gay marriage between two willing adults would be allowed. But pedophiles are taking advantage of a minor and this minor is not old enougth to make sensible adult decisions until they mature. Most pedophiles are forcing the younger person into doing things they don't want to do so this is clearly violating the young persons rights, and so Liberals do not support pedophiles.

Answer 4

In Canada, which is run by a Liberal government, we currently have legislation RAISING the legal age of sexual consent. This makes the mandate of organizations like NAMBLA much harder. So, I don't think you can say that Liberals are the problem. In the US the problem is that no one has a clue how to decipher your antiquated and outdated Constitution and its amendments. Time for the US to leap into the 21st century...

Regardless though, it seems odd that you equate gay rights of consenting adults to those who wish to have sex with children.

Answer 5

How those of the Rapture Right make the jump from homosexuality to pedophilia is beyond confusing. One is about the love of two consenting adults, the other is about a disgusting, disturbing, not-recognized-as-acceptable anywhere-in-the-world act between a pervert and an innocent child.

Answer 6

You are lumping two completely different subjects together in the same "question."

Let's ask this another way - since marriage is legal for straight people, can legalizing straight statutory rape or straight pedophilia be far behind? We all know from the published statistics that many many more straight men than gay men are pedophiles and rapists of underage boys and girls.

Is it a little clearer for you now how the issues are different? Or are you still as bigoted and homophobic as you were before? I bet you are.

Anyone who dares to call themselves 'christian' but does not support equality and justice for all people is a hypocrite. WWJD?

Answer 7

"We all know liberal states have the least punishment for pedophiles." I'd like to see research to support this.

Most pedophiles are heterosexual and have adult sexual partners.Pedophilia and homosexuality are not the same-- they can't even be equated with each other. A person's sexual orientation-- straight, bi, or gay-- has very little (if nothing) to do with this sexual perversion. I think more research needs to be done, but as far as I've researched, nothing links orientation with this type of sexual perversion.

Answer 8

Do you have any proof of what you say or do you just shoot off at the keyboard?

Liberals like FACTS when having a discussion.

And, it's really easy to differentiate between gay marriage - the acts of two consenting adults - and pedophilia - the sexual abuse of someone who cannot consent.

Your slippery slope argument fails because - despite your idiotic beliefs about the other side - common sense prevails.

Answer 9

Supporting laws to create a contractual commitment between two people has NOTHING to do with condoning pedophilia! No one who considers himself to be member of a civilized society would defend any individual or group preying on others. Sexual predators have to be closely monitored and kept away from children.

Answer 10

Here's the difference.

What two consenting adults do is their business.

NAMBLA is not about consenting adults.

An 8-year-old boy is more concerned about what Derek Jeter is doing and not having some perverted old man 5 times his age serving him up his personal hot dog.

Not consenting (even if he agrees to it, the child is not at the age of consent and so could not legally agree to it), and not adults.

Even a liberal has his limits.

Answer 11

Pedophilia hurts children. Sexually abused children are taken advantage of and they are hurt physically and psychologically by their abuse for the rest of their lives. No one could defend that.

Besides that, most children who are abused are abused by men who consider themselves to be heterosexual, even when they are sexually abusing and molesting boys, so you really can't lay pedophilia at the feet of homosexuals. AND most children who are abused are girls, being abused by men. It's heterosexual men who hurt children, overwhelmingly.

When two gay men or two gay women have a relationship, it is as any relationship between two adults, where two people love one another and want to spend their lives to together. No one is physically or psychologically injured by being gay or performing consensual adult homosexual acts, unless they are beaten or harassed by heterosexuals because of their acts. So homosexuality, again, bears no resemblance to pedophilia.