Why do we bother with North Korea and Iran?

Question

now i know ive been know to have lighthearted questions but this one is serious. why does america bother making negotaions with north korea and iran? why dont we just tell them You can stop making nuclear weapons or we'll physically force you to? and back up what we say because "negotiaons" are not working.

Answer 1

I think I can explain the circumstances that effect such situartions sucha s Iran and North Korea quite well. I apologize that this will be long, but to fully explain things it must be so.

First I would just like to clear up a few things that other people have answered so far.
1) Dealing with Iran and North Korea is not a cover up for Iraq and domestic politics. That is a load of you know what. Iraq so far has been costly, but a realitive success when you look in comparison to other nation building attempts around the world.
2) The US, especially under Bush, is not afraid what the world thinks about us. In the end we are the sole raminging superpower. We can survive, for the most part, without the world and they cannot survive without us.
3) Also Russia DOES NOT OWN THE IRANIAN FACILITES. Iran is in full control of their reactors and enrichment facilites. THe facilites were built with international support, largely from the US under the Shah, but Russia only made an offer to run the enrichment and reactors so that they could ensure that Iran was not makeing bombs.
4) The United States is not seen as a bully by most of the world on most issues. Yes many countires and persons are still angry about Iraq. Besides that the US is praised for its aid to the poor, assiatnce to help the enivronmnet, promotion of human rights and freedom, and all important global economic contributions.
5) To answer why N Korea doesn't tell us to give up our WMDS is several fold. First Kim Jong Il and The Iranian Presidnet are INSANE. Kim Jong Il claims he was born in a cabin, built with his own two hands. The President of Iran: The Holocause is a fake and Isreal should be destroyed. Let their words tell you how far out in left field they are. Second Iran and North Korea could never take on the US. Third since the US is the only contry to have used nuclear weapons they and Japan are the ones who have the most responsiblility to see other nations do not gain access to them.
6) Unforionatly America is the world's mommy. It is the truth that we are the international peacekeepers. The only ones witht he political clout, economic and military might to make the world a safer place.
7) Negotiating WAS the first step. We tried now for 12 years with N. Korea and almsot as long with Iran to give up WMD's. The world must look to stricter ways to accomplish the goal of a non Nuclear Iran or N. Korea. Also the UN IS A FAILED ORGANIZATION. Just read William Shawkrosses Deliver Us From Evil and learn.

Ok now I will get into my answer.
First is is easy to understand the most of the American public, liberals in particular and the world expect negotiations and appeasement. They see this as the easy way out of a difficult problem. Let me just get this out there: Appesement is the worst thing that we can do!!!! In 1994 the Clinton Administration gave N. Korea a free nuke reactor. I will say Clinton was not enitrely at fault: 1) He was dealing with Kim Jong Il's father who was not insane, and 2) it made sense at the time. Negotiating is seen as the best alternative to war and military action. Believe it or not but even Bush is against unneccessary military action. The other problems in negotiarting are simple world politics. It has been in the news since the N. Koreans test fired their missiles that China and Russia will not support sanctions against N. Korea. This is were the UN and negotiations break down. Political bias towards the well being of their own countires. Although it is understandable to look after your own nation first; in order for the UN to work the Security Council must fullfill its purpose to put world safety and peace first.

Second the US is not in the best military postition to force either nation to stop. Althought the US has one of the strongest and most advanced militaries in the world. That only goes so far. N. Korea's military is 2 million strong and Iran even greater. Before military acton is to be used the US has to weigh the consequences. If we bomb IRan several things will happen: 1) Iran will destroy Isreal with any nukes they already possess or least fund Hamas and other terrorist organizations to attack Isreal. The US does not want to damage its main Mid East ally. 2) Military action will give weight to bin Laden's claims that the US is on a crusade against muslims because the would make three countires we attacked. An attack against Iran will cause so much ill will we probably do not want to go forward. 3) Iraq; If we attack Iran the Sunni Shitite split will grow and Iran will disrupt our progress in Iraq with attacks and insurgant funding, and 4) Iran has a strong military. It multi million man armed forces is capable of defending its homeland very effrecivly. IF the US attacked we would be drawn into a very costly war in money and human lives.
Also on the N. Korean side the same holds very true. 1) North Korea may nuke Japan, and then invade South Korea. Although we have nearly 50,000 men in South Korea; even with the help of the SOuth Korean Armed Forces we would be outnumbered 3:1 easily. South Korea would be devestated. 2) We do not have the military presence in Asia to fight such a war. 3) The Chinese are greatly agaisnt it. And unfortionatly the Chinese in part control the destiny of our economy.

So there you have it. The US cannot rely on negotiations but at the same time military action is wrong. We are simply between a rock and a hard place.

I would like to say that much of my comments are based on hours of reading on the subject and very little political bias. I do not wish to offend anyone whose comments I critiqued in the beinging. All I try to do is offer what is the truth.

And God Bless America!

Answer 2

Negotiation is the first step. The UN should be handling this. Our administration should keep their mouths shut and let the UN handle it. Then - if actual force is necessary - the UN should do it. It's time for the US to take a partial step back and let the UN do it's job.

Unfortunately, the USA now has the reputation of the aggressor. The "attitude" - from Mr. Bush - my way or no way. Our foreign policy is truly at a low point. We went to war on lies. Too many countries know that the US knew the reasons were lies and Bush did what he wanted to anyway. We really look bad for that. For the USA to give either nation an ultimatum - is totally wrong. Make the UN do it properly. We'll get dragged into it soon enough.

Answer 3

because these countries are crazy enough to go to war over this. Iran is in an extremely sensitive part of the world that could become very volitile. North Korea is run by an insane madman that would start a nuclear war over this, so we must treat this situation lightly.

Answer 4

The Iran and Korea problems have been going on
for YEARS now. Iran held hundreds of Americans hostage back in 1979-80. I was part of a group
doing various things to take them back.

President CARTER was in charge then, not Bush
as the lefties here would have you believe....

N. Korea is communist and has been our enemy for
many many years. The Korean war has NEVER ended.
There was a truce called between the two countrys
and to this day we have thousands of U.S. Troops
stationed between N and S. Korea.

Oh and for the record. Bush didn't have anything to
do with that either.

Answer 5

Why doesn't Iran and N Korea tell Mr Bush 'give up your weapons or we'll physically force you to'? Why is it ok for USA to have weapons along with the west and not them America are the only country to have EVER used nuclear weapons against another country yet they don't want others to have any weapons. one rule for us another for them

Answer 6

well, it's because nuclear weapons cause mass destruction and death, and we don't want another Hiroshima. We are trying to get as much support to stop the production of nuclear weapons. I think the U.S. regrets having to drop a bomb that deadly on Hiroshima. Now that we and Japan are no longer enemies. It is our fault that we introduced nuclear weapons into the world, but I think weare just trying to clean up the mess we made [but it's taking a long time, and we don't have the right leader to do it]

Answer 7

This is still one more of your questions that is not only light hearted, but ignorant...grow up! This is no different than the
other idiotic places in the world toying with destroying our World
by nuclear ideas. Believe NOT all that you hear...a tiny baby step of information would be to look up JBS...John Birch Society on the internet and become inlightnend....then don't fall into their trap
either....they are a one sided bunch...but at least truthfull...to get the full story...read your Bible. Pray to God. Get busy about his
work on earth! If you have time to play around with the internet you have time to Glorify God there and make a difference...watch
the movie Pay It Forward...Get on board with a purpose for your life! You can do it! You were created by God with a purpose! So
get busy about it!

Answer 8

Because your government is afraid of what the international community might think or do.

Also, Russia owns much of the Iranian nuclear facilities.

I think another reason is to attract the press away from affairs within the USA. A failing government might for example, use a war on terror to detract attention away from issues of corruption, FEMA failures, indictments and other such things.

Answer 9

They both have nuclear power plants, they have crazy people, and they have attacked us. Remember the missiles that North Korea launched on the 4th? Plus, Bush feels that we have to reform them since we are the best country in the world and God's country.

Answer 10

To please all the liberals that believe that negotiating with lunatics actually works. Also, North Korea and Iran are very close to having nuclear capabilities, unlike Iraq who we stopped from ever having nuclear capabilities. I guess the pre-emptive strike isn't looking so bad after all.