If you had the choose would you like England to be a state of Europe or a state of America.?

Question

I'm English but I don't class myself as European.
Everything here is owned by America, might as well be the 51st State.

Answer 1

I would like England to be a State in its own right. The process of devolution has only been partially completed in my opinion. Thus, whilst Northern Ireland has an assembly, as does Wales and Scotland has a Parliament, England does not have its own separate body but relies upon the Palace of Westminster. The difficulty with this is "the West Lothian question" of how come it's right for Scottish, Welsh, and Northern Irish members of Parliament to vote on matters that exclusively affect England, when the English MPs don't get to return the favour? An example is student finance. If memory serves correct, the vote in Parliament was so narrow that the government's majority was less than the number of Scottish MPs voting in favour of inflicting a very harsh funding regime upon English students - one which they did not impose for their own students north of the border. So, I would rather England were a state in its own right FIRST and then and only then got to decide which wider, most likely Federal body, such as Europe or the USA it got to join.

If England were truly a state, then it's Government Office Regions could be devolved more powers, such as local taxation, or decision-making over whether to build nuclear power stations or whether to adopt renewable energy sources instead. Our current framework does not allow local decision-making and that will not change whether we are part of Europe or part of the USA.

Politically, we are already part of Europe by virtue of several treaties. In terms of defence, we are similarly part of the USA again as a result of several treaties and obligations under which we allow American military personnel to operate missions from our island as if it were a giant airforce carrier parked just off mainland Europe.

I think it was George Orwell, in the book 1984 who called the UK "Airstrip One" in recognition of its geographic location and political dilemma.

Personally, I would like the UK to retain sterling and remain independent from the European Bank, whilst entering into closer trading ties with Europe on the basis of a trade area rather than anything else. I think it's important to remember the process of creating a constitution has in effect stalled across Europe whilst in the USA the process of amending the constitution, such as in decisions over whether to allow Gay Marriage, ties the population up in knots of collective disagreement. In the United Kingdom we have a system of nation state which has evolved over an incredibly long period of time, and brought amazing political stability and provided the opportunity to build up a robust economy which is sustained through its independent currency. I worry about the effects of any change to that and whether it would be detrimental or positive.

Answer 2

Well, let's look at the facts:
1) England is a part of the United Kingdom.
2) The United Kingdom is a member of the European Union.
3) Geographically Britain is part of Europe and not of America.

So why would anyone in his right mind want the UK to be part of the USA, which have become the most unfair and most criminal empire in history?
The fact that large parts of British industry are meanwhile owned by Americans is bad enough. The servile attitude of Tony Blair towards George W. Bush makes things worse, but why would you want to sell Britain out to a bunch of gunslinging Americans?

Answer 3

R U Serious? The European UK countries like England and Sctotland are not even sure they want to be a part of Europe, what makes you think they may even want to consider becoming a part of te US?

I think it would be easier for to Cuba become a part of the US than England and believe that sounds rather unlikely.

Answer 4

I guess in a round about way it is a state of america. We were colonies under Englands control, we fought them and won and now they are OUR allies. I think that in a way they are a state of America because they realize that we can flex our muscles and they want to be on our side when that happens.

Answer 5

Europe!

Answer 6

If one or the other America of course, they need to learn to speak the language right sometime and learn that the letter u is not always necessary. It is spelled color.

But would rather have them the way they are right now, independent of both. England seems to be doing rather good right now, don't see why they would want to join anyone.

Answer 7

I presume the UK and not England, i would want them to be in the united countries of Europe, america is finished with

Answer 8

England should be England. Europe is ok for trade but the EEC is costly and the new countries joining are making life difficult for us. As for joining the USA??? Do you want to spend your life fighting people?

Answer 9

Europe. We're a European nation, our history is with Europe, our culture is European and we live in blooming Europe. We need a Prime Minister willing to take us further into the Union.

Answer 10

EUROPE!!! There is no reason to ruin England by americanizing it. It is perfectly fine, and doesn't need to be a state of america.